Syrian Air Defenses down Turkish F-4

**zraver** · 09 Jul 12,, 00:28

Originally Posted by Doktor

Big K,

Is the headline sarcastic? If I understand well it says "Big threat to Turkey".

And the warning not to play with fire, is so cliche, I don't think anyone takes it seriously

They do when Turks say it. NATO's first armed conflict was NSTO v NATO when Turkey invaded Greece, recently Turkey invaded American controlled Iraqi Kurdish areas, don't forget how the Turks played a critical role in saving the UN armed forces in Korea... When the Turks decide to fight, they fight, they don't really go in for blustering.

**Doktor** · 09 Jul 12,, 09:22

Originally Posted by zraver

They do when Turks say it. NATO's first armed conflict was NSTO v NATO when Turkey invaded Greece, recently Turkey invaded American controlled Iraqi Kurdish areas, don't forget how the Turks played a critical role in saving the UN armed forces in Korea... When the Turks decide to fight, they fight, they don't really go in for blustering.

Z,

The article is about the Pals saying that in eventual Turkey-Syria conflict they will support Syria.
And it ends with a warning for the Turks not to play with fire.

BTW, what is NSTO?

**zraver** · 10 Jul 12,, 04:17

Originally Posted by Doktor

Z,

The article is about the Pals saying that in eventual Turkey-Syria conflict they will support Syria.
And it ends with a warning for the Turks not to play with fire.

BTW, what is NSTO?

Sorry, thought it was the Turks saying it, PoG might think it can bully and bluster the US and Israel and at most risk "limited" reprisals. They mess with Turkey and it will be 1982 all over again except it will be from the North not the South.

NSTO is zraver typo for NATO.

**Native** · 11 Jul 12,, 18:59

I'm curious to see what the ELINT footprint for that area at the time of the shoot down.

Due to the range of the alleged weapons systems, I am inclined to find Syria justified in it's shoot down. I am curious if anyone disagree's? Not saying it was necessarily the right thing to do. But your country is in turmoil, trigger fingers are itchy and you have unidentified combat aircraft in your airspace.