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Reply With QuoteReading the last half dozen exothermic posts, I think everybody needs to take a break, have a couple of stiff drinks, and re-read or re-write their posts. We need to keep on track here and not slide into a slanging match.
Maj,
I am of the opinion that we have to get Qaddafy one way or the other, with or without UN approval. Otherwise, we will see Lockerbies galore.
Chimo
Reading the last half dozen exothermic posts, I think everybody needs to take a break, have a couple of stiff drinks, and re-read or re-write their posts. We need to keep on track here and not slide into a slanging match.
Last edited by dave lukins; 27 Mar 11, at 15:36.
If kept in power his revenge will be heard around the world. We have to remove him and bring him to justice. You cannot murder your own people and walk away.Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers
Chances of getting the Arab league to agree to this ? NIL
..let's see what the Hague team can do
It will be interesting indeed. Apart from boots on the ground, what can be done? Is it becoming 'the devil you know' or will the next on the throne be as bad, or even worse than the pariah we know and can watch and control, albeit with threats?Chances of getting the Arab league to agree to this ? NIL
..let's see what the Hague team can do
As Lenin suggested, how can you have a revolution without firing squads?
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Reading the last half dozen exothermic posts, I think everybody needs to take a break, have a couple of stiff drinks, and re-read or re-write their posts. We need to keep on track here and not slide into a slanging match.
I dont think it will be a slaggin match nuts , the people who are debating this thread are far more intelligent for that to happen , however maybe a stiff bevvy and reflection will do the trick .
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Sir,
That's exactly my point. There is no point aiding a bunch of idiots who have till date not set their priorities right and who's conduct are at best, questionable.
What is the point of running bombing raids on the Colonel's forces when those freaks are not willing to stand straight and fight? Or is somebody seriously contemplating the rebels storming built-up fortifications against a trained regular army? Are they wishful that these ******s will eventually take away Tripoli, while aided by airial raids? Are the fckers ready to call fire on their coordinates or are you willing to oblize?
Other than all these, the only other alternative that you have and which Dave is contemplating is boots on the ground. Now its up to your Generals to do a feasibility/cost-benefit analysis of the political-economic fallouts of commiting your troops to yet another sh!thole.
My take- Turn Colonel Gaddafi into a legit military target and make best use of your Hellfires and Tomahawks. Hell...drop couple of GBU-43s even, if you are still not sure, but do spare the young chaps form cleaning yet another sh!thole.
And on the sixth day, God created the Field Artillery...
Dave,
Talking about bringing somebody to justice, a trial sounds intelligent, when you still have some hope of the guy being innocent. I do not think for even a moment, that Col Gaddafi deserves a fair trial. Why waste time, money and blood for a murderer of innocent lives.
Kill him.
Major, Sir I disagree. He does deserve a fair trial then strung up immediately
How will this make us any different then him? Sentencing someone without trial, more over to death penalty. Ain't that anarchy? I thought we fight for democracy, law and order.
Gaddafi, as the Leader of Libya and Commander of his Armed Forces has to be held responsible for the killing of his people. Don't forget that it was Gaddafi himself who vowed to "die a martyr" if necessary in his fight against the rebels and external forces. If he can be put before a Court to answer to his crimes then so be it . If he falls on his sword like he has said..so be it. It's his choice. I can't see where OoE has mentioned no trial or giving him the death penalty, just that we have to get him one way or the other.
His crimes are war crimes, deserves death.
Talking about fighting for democracy, law and order...bringing Col Gaddafi under the books of law require boots on the ground and a lot of blood, money and PR backlash as added incentives. The nations expected to do so have their hand full and no promises of even a word of thanks. Wastage......
Its better to kill him.
Wanna make him a martyr? If that's not failure in this whole situation idk what can be worse (besides supporting what may be AQ, but that's another topic)
Тo take him to trial - O/C, but not without legal backup.
"with or without UN approval"
Aye..Aye Sir. And possibly a British citizenship if the liberals and human rights activists feel he is innocent.Major, Sir I disagree. He does deserve a fair trial then strung up immediately
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