I disagree with the authors assessment of Iraq, but I agree with the offshoring thing.
I would like to see all US forces leave the area, except for Naval Forces, which are less obtrusive.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/171261/output/printMiddle East: Know the Limits of U.S. Power
John J. Mearsheimer
NEWSWEEK
From the magazine issue dated Dec 8, 2008
The United States is in deep trouble in the Middle East. Despite Barack Obama's promises to withdraw from Iraq, the debacle there shows no sign of ending soon. Hamas rules in Gaza; Iran is quickly moving to acquire a nuclear deterrent. We need a radically different strategy for the region.
Fortunately, there is a strategy that has proved effective in the past and could serve again today: "offshore balancing." It's less ambitious than President Bush's grand plan to spread democracy throughout the Middle East, but it would be much better at protecting actual U.S. interests. The United States would station its military forces outside the region. And "balancing" would mean we'd rely on regional powers like Iran, Iraq and Saudi Arabia to check each other. Washington would remain diplomatically engaged, and when necessary would assist the weaker side in a conflict. It would also use its air and naval power to respond quickly to unexpected threats. But—and this is the key point—America would put boots on the ground only if the local balance of power seriously broke down and one country threatened to dominate the others.
This approach might strike some as cynical. It would do little to foster democracy or promote human rights. But Bush couldn't deliver on those promises anyway, and it is ultimately up to individual countries to determine their own political systems. It is hardly cynical to base U.S. strategy on a realistic appraisal of American interests and a clear-eyed sense of what U.S. power can and cannot accomplish.
Offshore balancing is nothing new: the United States pursued such a strategy in the Middle East quite successfully during much of the Cold War. America helped Iraq contain revolutionary Iran in the 1980s. Then, when Iraq's conquest of Kuwait in 1990 threatened to tilt things in Baghdad's favor, the United States assembled a multinational coalition to smash Saddam Hussein's military machine.
The strategy has three particular virtues. First, it would significantly reduce the chances that we would get involved in another bloody and costly war like Iraq. America doesn't need to control the Middle East with its own forces; it merely needs to ensure that no other country does.
Second, offshore balancing would ameliorate America's terrorism problem. Foreign occupiers generate fierce resentment. Keeping America's military forces out of sight would minimize the anger created by having them stationed on Arab soil.
Third, offshore balancing would reduce fears in Iran and Syria that the United States aims to attack them and remove their regimes—a key reason these states are currently seeking weapons of mass destruction. Persuading Tehran to abandon its nuclear program will require Washington to address Iran's legitimate security concerns and to refrain from overt threats.
A final, compelling reason to adopt this approach is that nothing else has worked. After the Gulf war, the Clinton administration pursued a "dual containment" strategy: instead of using Iraq and Iran to check each other, the United States began trying to contain both. As a result, both came to view the United States as a bitter enemy. The policy also required the United States to deploy large numbers of troops in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, which helped persuade Osama bin Laden to declare war on America.
Offshore balancing wouldn't eliminate all the problems we face in the Middle East. But it would be considerably less expensive in both human and financial terms. It's not a foolproof strategy, but it's probably as close as we can get.
Mearsheimer is a professor of political science at the University of Chicago and coauthor of “The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy.”
"Old school" realists but the approach has its merits.![]()
I disagree with the authors assessment of Iraq, but I agree with the offshoring thing.
I would like to see all US forces leave the area, except for Naval Forces, which are less obtrusive.
- How do you leave the area when there are ~50 million muslims and counting in Europe today, with intensifying social conflicts and creeping radicalization?
- How do you leave the area when the area is on the brink of acquiring nuclear weapons that can reach Europe?
- How do you leave the area when global competition for fossil fuels are on track to intensify greatly in the coming years?
On the flip side:
- Iraq is transitioning into stability and some form of democracy.
- The struggle in Iraq has turned public opinion against Al Qaeda.
- We have stabilized Saudi Arabia for the time being.
- Libya has coming capitulated.
- Other Middle Eastern nations are undertaking gradual liberalizing reforms.
- Hamas' victory in Gaza has given Israel and the PLO a common enemy. With the PLO more dependent now than ever on international aid, and in control of the West Bank, there is better opportunity than ever of developing a functional Palestinian government. Only then is peace truly achievable.
How is the above not a nascent strategic success?
Iran is the greatest problem in the Middle East for the near term. It cannot be allowed to ever acquire nuclear weapons. With its economy crumbling and attendant shift in public opinion (but not necessarily actual power) to reformists, there is ripening opportunity for a renewed push towards stopping its nuclear program.
Newsweek has its head up its a** as usual.
citanon,
not newsweek, but mearsheimer. he's one of the REALLY old-skool realists, famous for his belief that one of these days china and the US will duke it out.Newsweek has its head up its a** as usual.
The human mind cannot grasp the causes of phenomena in the aggregate. But the need to find these causes is inherent in man’s soul. And the human intellect, without investigating the multiplicity and complexity of the conditions of phenomena, any one of which taken separately may seem to be the cause, snatches at the first, the most intelligible approximation to a cause, and says: “This is the cause!"
-Leo Tolstoy
War and Peace
I just wanted to share some stray thoughts (and I also do not agree with Mearsheimer)...
Please treat my post below as a request for more information:
1. Yes but ~50 million Muslims are going to be there regardless of what the US did or does. And on a comparative scale, how serious is that? Eg. India has 180 million[?] Muslims, Indonesia has at least 200 million and Malaysia at least 11 million. My point being that: creeping radicalization does not lend itself to easy solutions. [Note: I'm not even attempting to think about social conflicts. My head spins at the thought.].
2. I'm not saying leave but US has the same problem with North Korea. Another headache. Further, the Europeans don't want to spend enough on defence (and don't want to commit to spending more - they need the money for subsidies to their farmers). I feel strongly that the Europeans should attempt to spend enough to defend themselves. Why should the US taxpayer bear so much of the burden?.
3. Energy dependence is a global issue but the US can start by changing itself (it's consumption patterns via energy taxes). But yes, the need for oil security will not go away, so the US must remain engaged.
Iran is always a problem in the Middle East. What has changed?
Hi Citanon,
Iran is actually probably the best solution in the Middle East when the whole shebang is looked at in a grand strategic context.
Consider what the U.S. and its European and Asian allies are trying to do both regionally and globally: a stable, gas exporting Iran, maybe even with a minimum credible nuclear deterrent is the most attractive proposition extant.
Regards,
William
Pharoh was pimp but now he is dead. What are you going to do today?
I think I agree with Mearsheimer. Adopting his ideas, or at least some of them, might call for a more sensible foreign policy towards the Middle East. The problem with US foreign policy in the Middle East is it has become too militarised. More diplomatic engagement is needed, and a more multilateral approach should be called for.
It is a very, very complicated issue with no easy solution. Hasn’t the relationship between the West & the Middle East been one of constant conflict over the centuries?
Nebula82.
Last edited by nebula82; 12 Feb 09, at 10:34.
Hi Metric,
Proliferation in general is not a good thing, IMO, but "wants" might not really be material at this point. The U.S. and its allies have some stated policy goals in mind regionally and they must now match those desired ends with a choice of means.
I don't want to stray to far off topic, but there are six possible outcomes to the current situation with the Iranians and two of them involve control of the uranium fuel cycle while one involves mastery of fission weapons. Regional goals will have to be matched with regional aspirations at some point so might as well get used to a couple of different ideas.
The gist of Mearsheimer's article appears to be a validation of Brzezinksi's longstanding position which involves outsourcing security arrangements to a regional partner. What Mearsheimer did not really do in his article was take a closer look at the various merits and demerits of the hand full of candidates for the job. If you choose to do so, you will see how Iran, with or without nuclear weapons, starts to look like the logical candidate.
Hope you have a good afternoon.
William
Pharoh was pimp but now he is dead. What are you going to do today?
Basically Mearsheimer wants US to be the complete replica of UK in the 18th and 19th century.
This just goes to show why the reading of the great game of the middle east in the last two centuries is relevant. and how often history repeats itself![]()
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Share this thread with friends: