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Reply With QuoteThe American 4th Infantry Division.Originally Posted by parihaka
Then America won't be doing anything, no extra troops for an invasion.
No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry
The American 4th Infantry Division.
Chimo
Are u serious . How many troops are in the 4th infantry division.
Could they possibly match up to 100 000 of Iran's elite revolutionary guard?
How many would be left after the bombing and artillery?
No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry
You're shitting me. Double that Iranian number and I'll still bet on the 4ID.
Chimo
Having an intimate knowledge of personnel who orchestrated American efforts in Afghanistan against the Soviets, I see you obviously know nothing about our support to certain groups, with exception to the mindless and fallacious pundits' trite sayings.
If they Iranians invaded, I'd let them come into the Iraqi desert and then utterly devastate them from the air. Then come in with the 4th ID and kill them all. It certainly would stop any further Iranian agression. That's probably not even nessecary, probably just defeat them and they'll stop dicken around.
Last edited by Praxus; 23 Jan 05, at 16:30.
Can you tell me why? Is it b/c the Iranians are like the Iraqis? No concept of organized manuever warfare? Or 4ID has way more firepower than a 200,000 Iranian army?
It's because the 4th ID is better trained, better equiped, and better led. On top of this they have a shitload of CAS to support them
On top of this we can watch their movements from space and the air and they can't do to much about it. Where they have limited means to determine our position.
OOE will be able to answer much better then I.
The 4ID is the technologically most advance division on earth. There are no two ways about it. What that entails is that they could see and hear alot further than any other military on earth and the ability to co-ordinate fire just as far.
If the Iranians decide to cross the border, that essentially means that the 4ID will know where every Iranian division and corps HQ is and know exactly how to reach them either by manouver or by fire. This while the Iranians would still be blind as to any of the 4ID movements.
What's more, you kill the division or corps HQ, you kill the division or corps reserve. Once you kill the reserve, you've isolated the entire division or corps.
Chimo
How does killing the division or corps HQ kill the reserves? Logically, shouldn't there be a reserve HQs? Are you saying that Iranian's C3 or C2 structure are not redundant like the Russians?
How would you compare the 4ID to a InA strike Corps?
That is interesting.If the Iranians decide to cross the border, that essentially means that the 4ID will know where every Iranian division and corps HQ is and know exactly how to reach them either by manouver or by fire. This while the Iranians would still be blind as to any of the 4ID movements
Can you amplify or is it classified?
The reserves are normally the HQ's force protection.
Normally, that's the echelon above, ie corps takes over division and theatre takes over corps.
Can't think straight at the moment. Depends on the context and I'm too droopy eye to think things through.
Sir, it's not classified but I'm going to put together a package for you and send it via postal mail. It will answer alot more of your questions than my fried brain could do right now.
Chimo
Colonel,
Thanks.
Isn't the revolutionary guard meant to be elite?
Couldn't they also see where the American 4th infantry brigade are aswell?
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