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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray
    So Iran will screw all?

    Where is the delivery system?

    Your pastor tells you that Iran will screw all? why man? Why would it "screw" all?

    Being against Israel in the region amounts to "screwing" all? or to challenge Israeli hegemony both nuclear/ conventional in the region "screwing" all?

    BTW I don't think Iran has perfected any delivery system! There is no confirmaion from the intelligence agencies yet that iran has assembled a fission device yet.

    Last we heard was that the iranians arrested 10 spies for working for outside intelligence agencies, and for 'revealing' the Natanz facility

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    Hey lull, I thought u were banned

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aryan
    Hey lull, I thought u were banned

    Yeah for 3 days, as a warning to control the Anti-Neocon rhetoric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lulldapull
    as a warning to control the Anti-Neocon rhetoric.
    That's quite inaccurate.
    No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
    I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
    even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
    He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry

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    I think that people who support the corrupt America and child killers of Israel should be banned.
    "I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." Albert Einstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie
    I think that people who support the corrupt America and child killers of Israel should be banned.

    Your statement is dripping with hatred. You aren't pro anything; you're simply anti some things.

    Tell me, are you as 'objective' when you evaluate the conduct of the enemies of America and Israel? Or do you just ignore their murderous failings in some misguided demonstration of pity for them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie
    I think that people who support the corrupt America and child killers of Israel should be banned.
    As opposed to the supporters of corrupt anywhere else, and the child killers of Palestine?
    No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
    I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
    even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
    He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry

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    Your pastor tells you that Iran will screw all? why man? Why would it "screw" all?
    Lull,

    I have no pastor, brahmin priests or maulavi to tell me what is right.

    I have me and I have nature, environement and the Creator. Period.

    You all can go chasing icons of knowledge and piety like Jesus, Krishna, Mohamet and other Joes. It is your right and opinion.

    Some of the Gods are mythological figures and some are historical. I couldn't care less. No offence meant.

    No man or fairy tale called 'scriptures' will guide my life. I am not so weak to take someone else's ideas to guide me thorough life.

    However, I will read all they said, but I will decided how I shall lead my life.

    It maybe very offensive to many, but I wonder how they are any way superior to the average intellect?

    I live on because there is earth, fire, air and good nature.

    Nature is my existence and not anything else.

    Religion is opiate for the illiterate.

    And the best part I hate Commies.

    Another point I wish to make is that I don't require an identity. I am confident of myself.

    I don't want to gang up as a religious group as a Moslem to kick Christians and Hindus.

    I don't want to gang up a Christian or Hindu to kick Moslem.

    I just want to be 'ME'.

    I want sanity to return. I wish to contribute to it if that is within my realm of knowledge. I want PEACE.

    Lull, I don't care what my pastor says. Gave up going to a Church long ago.

    Church is peaceful so long as the Preacher doesn't open his mouth.

    Miust be the same in a Mosque I reckon.

    The blasted Hindus don't have any sermonsing. Say your prayer, shove the money and buzz off! Highly automated! They are hi tech and 21st Century! Money first and gas later!

    Capitalistic dogs, what?!
    Last edited by Ray; 27 Dec 04, at 10:34.

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    2005 will be the year America either wins or loses the so called war on terror. This war has never been about the terrorist organizations but about the terrorist states that fight their proxy wars with them. Political pressure has fixed our problems with Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Libya. We had no choice but to invade Afghanistan. This left three terrorist states, Iraq, Iran, and Syria. Iraq wasn't going to change diplomatically so we invaded the place. The hope was that Iraq would be an example to the rest of the Islamic world as it turned to democracy and that Syria and Iran would turn either diplomatically or through internal regime change. This last part did not work out. Iran and to a lesser extent Syria continue to be the remaining state sponsors of terror and the logistical base for the insurgents in Iraq. The U.S. will not achieve victory in Iraq as long as Iran continues to flood the place with arms, operatives, money, and insurgents. Either America is going to be defeated in Iraq in the same way we lost Vietnam or the war is going to expand to Iran.

    I think the Bush administration understands the options and is today laying the groundwork with the support of the Iraqi government to attack Iran in 2005 sometime after the Iraqi election. Watch the various evidence coming out of Iraq about Iran's activity and the demonization of the Iranian government.

    The goal of this war will be regime change. When the war starts the U.S. will attack the regime command and control structure in Iran. I think we will launch a land invasion of Southwest Iran to secure the Strait of Hormuz. I think with that area secure you will see U.S. forces dig in and sit by during a lengthy air campaign provided the Iranians do not collapse internally. Land battles will be similar to Iraq's experience at Khafgi during the Gulf War, U.S. air power and limited land forces will slaughter Iranian forces moving in the open.

    If this air campaign does not remove the Iranian government which I think highly likely a U.S. land invasion of the rest of Iran will become inevitable. This will entail the reinstituation of the draft as the U.S. army will need expansion during the occupation phase of this war.

    In the event the war escalates beyond U.S. expectations I fully anticipate the U.S. and/or Israel to use nuclear weapons to bring things under rapid control. The U.S. does not want to use nuclear weapons but the President is not going to accept the high levels of casualties there nonuse may result in.

    2005 is going to be an interesting year. Get ready to get your gas ration card.

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    If this air campaign does not remove the Iranian government which I think highly likely a U.S. land invasion of the rest of Iran will become inevitable. This will entail the reinstituation of the draft as the U.S. army will need expansion during the occupation phase of this war.
    When the Air Campaign is over the Iranian government won't exsist.

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    I think that people who support the corrupt America and child killers of Israel should be banned.
    Yes, but you are also the person who thought Iranian paratroopers could conquer Israel overnight when almost 2 dozen Arab states failed over the course of 56 years. So your opinion really isn't that important. All you did now was demonstrate that your moral opinions are as weak as your military assesments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie
    I think that people who support the corrupt America and child killers of Israel should be banned.
    ...and I think your a bigot that should be banned. Your effectively accusing me of supporting the killing of children because I support someone you don't, you won't gain my respect insinuating that....
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    Quote Originally Posted by antelope
    2005 will be the year America either wins or loses the so called war on terror.
    Wishful thinking, be prepared for more like 2015. America cannot win it alone, so it's a good thing we're not fighting it alone.
    Quote Originally Posted by antelope
    Either America is going to be defeated in Iraq in the same way we lost Vietnam or the war is going to expand to Iran.
    America wasn't defeated by an enemy in Vietnam, we defeated ourselves.
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    to attack Iran in 2005
    It's not going to happen, no troops to do it.
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    about Iran's activity and the demonization of the Iranian government.
    Thankfully it requires very little to demonize demons.
    Quote Originally Posted by antelope
    I think we will launch a land invasion of Southwest Iran to secure the Strait of Hormuz. I think with that area secure you will see U.S. forces dig in and sit by during a lengthy air campaign provided the Iranians do not collapse internally. Land battles will be similar to Iraq's experience at Khafgi during the Gulf War, U.S. air power and limited land forces will slaughter Iranian forces moving in the open.
    The bombardment I could believe, but there are no troops for an invasion.
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    This will entail the reinstituation of the draft as the U.S. army will need expansion during the occupation phase of this war.
    To do this in 2005 there would allready have been a massive expansion. Americans won't stand for a draft.
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    use nuclear weapons to bring things under rapid control.
    Not unless someone uses WMD on us first.
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    Get ready to get your gas ration card.
    Nah, higher prices maybe, but no rationing in 2K5.
    No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
    I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
    even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
    He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry

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    Either America is going to be defeated in Iraq in the same way we lost Vietnam or the war is going to expand to Iran.
    I agree. Iran must be brought to it's knees.

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    ‘Khan as dangerous as Osama, gave significant help to Iran’
    Posted online: Thursday, November 25, 2004 at 0213 hours IST

    NEW YORK: A. Q. Khan is ‘‘at least as dangerous as Osama bin Laden,’’ former CIA director George J Tenet was on Wednesday quoted by The New York Times as saying in a speech, even as the US spy agency asserted that he may have transferred ‘‘advanced’’ weapon component designs to Iran. Tenet also said the probe into the network stretched across three continents, back to 1997, and that he had kept it secret in the government from everyone except Bill Clinton and George W Bush. A CIA report said the proliferation network led by Khan provided Iran’s nuclear programme with ‘‘significant assistance,’’ including the designs for ‘‘advanced and efficient’’ weapons components. American officials suspect the Khan network provided Iran with a warhead design as well, the Times said. —PTI

    Cheers!...on the rocks!!

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