Thread: How Strong Is the Arab Claim to Palestine?

Originally Posted by rhytha

... Arabs are not native to Palestine...

can i ask something?

how can you say that being under the rule of other nations does mean that you are not native?

you've stated many empires, kings, nations who conquered and ruled over the Palestine. thats ok but,

i just can not understand the logic who leads you to this:

"they are not native because they are ruled by others...??"

this is not logic and historically accurate.

and Israel and Palestine is in the Arabian peninsula, isnt it?

The leadership of terrorist and revolutionary organizations tend to be well educated and of middling wealth. But does that mean impoverishment isn't an important factor in creating terrorism or revolutionary movements? I do not argue that the solution is going to be purely economic, but the inequatable distribution of wealth in the petro states is a part of the problem.

Originally Posted by Triple C

The leadership of terrorist and revolutionary organizations tend to be well educated and of middling wealth. But does that mean impoverishment isn't an important factor in creating terrorism or revolutionary movements? I do not argue that the solution is going to be purely economic, but the inequatable distribution of wealth in the petro states is a part of the problem.

Triple C,

my theory according my personal investigations says that

the economic problems are the %75 of the problem.

we are living exactly the same thing in the southeast.

people i talk from there say always one common thing: the main cause of enlisting to the terrorist organisations is the economic one.

the percentage of the people who join the the terrorist factions will dramatically decrease if these people will have a reasonable living standard.

infact this must be an important strategy when dealing with terrorism.

i believe taking their human resources away will reduce their operational capability and will isolate their core from the realities of the environment in which they act.

Originally Posted by Big K

can i ask something?

how can you say that being under the rule of other nations does mean that you are not native?

you've stated many empires, kings, nations who conquered and ruled over the Palestine. thats ok but,

i just can not understand the logic who leads you to this:

"they are not native because they are ruled by others...??"

this is not logic and historically accurate.

and Israel and Palestine is in the Arabian peninsula, isnt it?

Here is a map with the Roman province of Arabia Petrea in red... but yeah, the Arabs have always occupied the hinterlands of the entire area of Syria, Iraq, and Palestine, well before the time of Mohammed or even Roman times. There were also settled, sedentary Arabs in the cities of those regions among other groups.

Mohammed's conquests were aimed at uniting all of the Arab tribes under his rule, and this meant the tribes of Syria, Iraq, and Palestine. He would not tolerate any opposition from any Arabs anywhere, he was not concerned with conquests of non-Arab lands. It just so happens his successors went a bit further than his original aims, taking the whole of those territories then spreading into Iran and North Africa as well. The rest is history.