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    Quote Originally Posted by Swift Sword View Post
    If we take the official definition at face value and use a historically valid classification of incindeiary weapons as chemical weapons, it could be argued that the two flying fire bombs al-Qaeda deployed against NYC were WMD.
    Swift Sword,

    Incendiary weapons are not chemical weapons. This is why incendiary weapons are their own separate classification of weapons.

    However, it is definitely true that it was the incendiary effect of the jet fuel that caused the WTC towers to collapse - the high temperatures of the fire caused by the burning fuel is what weakened the steel trusses and caused the collapse of the concrete floors that ended in the pancaking collapse of the towers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swift Sword View Post
    A fourth attack could be unfolding before our very eyes given what I see on the front page of this morning's paper. Who knows? Time will tell as it does in all things.
    Makes me glad that our local grocery stores can't seem to stock fresh produce. It's prevented us from buying our standard spinach leaves for dinner salads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swift Sword View Post
    Two cases of bio terror attacks on the United States were presented: one by a foreign power and one by the adherents of an alien ideology. Though these instances were quite well documented, you chose to brush them aside as "irrelevant".
    One failed, and the other was some dust in envelopes. Sorry, no "mass destruction" from either of those.
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    Now you could be dishonest and attempt to redefine WMD for purposes of your argument as not including bioglogical agents but you would look kind of silly since in many official U.S. documents "weapons of mass destruction" are construed to be "nuclear, chemical and biological weapons".
    You were talking about a nuke, and so was I. Read back...
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    A fourth attack could be unfolding before our very eyes given what I see on the front page of this morning's paper. Who knows? Time will tell as it does in all things.
    A billion attacks could be unfolding, but that doesn't change the past...
    Quote Originally Posted by Swift Sword View Post
    Suit yourself with textbook models based on limited sample pools. My first hand observations below the waterline of American society lead me to different conclusions.
    Sorry guy, putting a nuke in a truck full of cocaine will increase the chances of getting busted. There are more ways to detect it, and there will be more people involved. If that doesn't increase the chances, nothing does. If you read back, that's all I said...
    No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
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    even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
    He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. Itís the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry

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