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**Ironduke** · 10-07-2007, 05:02 AM

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The definition of civil war, according to dictionary.com:

A state of hostility or conflict between elements within an organization.

Sunnis and shittes are two different sects within the same religion. So, since you could call a religion a sort of "organization:, I would say that it classifies as a civi war. Sunnis vs. Sunnis and Shitties vs. Shitties further illustrates the point of a civil war, because within a sect, that is fighting another sect, there is fighting.

With that definition, the Iran-Iraq War could be considered as having been a civil war too.

There's actually a name for the Sunni-Shi'ite conflict in Iraq, sectarian violence. In my book, it's a shade darker than ethnic tensions and a shade lighter than civil war.

Ray · 10-07-2007, 05:57 AM

Ram Hammer,

You are an interesting chap.

Your views are also very interesting, especially when one is just about settling down to have a beer and have a nice quiet day!

Earthquakes and tsunamis become secondary matter to ponder about.

I am sure with you around there will be no dull moments.

Be around.

No offence meant.

Don't worry about the flak that you are receiving. This is called baptism under fire.

If you survive, then you have arrived!

Stan187 · 10-07-2007, 17:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RamHammer

I applaud everyone who has fought for their country. I am contemplating doing the same, by joining the IDF. However, I am only 16, and I need to think this through.

Do contemplate. By time you join up, I might be your squad leader.

sappersgt · 10-07-2007, 17:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RamHammer

Sir, I am not thinking about getting laid;I don't even have a girlfriend.

I am much more mature than most 16 year olds. There are more important things in life than sex, money, and booze.

I wouldn't lie about something like that; I know how many vets get annoyed by people who lie about serving.

Is not okay for a 16 year old to think more than one day ahead of his life?

Don't worry, you've got time. When you find a girlfriend and believe me it will happen, you won't think about much else.

You're not the first 16 year old nor the first Israeli poster who then went off to war. You're plenty old enough to consider the seriousness of life and there's nothing wrong with serving your country whether it's mandatory or not. The SADF and IDF had close ties so I've been to Israel several times and liked the people and the country. In fact there was a young lady in Jaffa that made me consider staying...

Edit: What brings you to San Diego and which Dominos?

RamHammer · 10-07-2007, 18:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Stan187

Do contemplate. By time you join up, I might be your squad leader.

That's interesting to know.

What unit are you currently in? I know most volunteers either join Golani, or become paratroopers.

Stan187 · 10-07-2007, 20:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RamHammer

That's interesting to know.

What unit are you currently in? I know most volunteers either join Golani, or become paratroopers.

Not currently in any. I'm going in a few months, probably will get drafted in the March giyus. I'm going as a mitnadev hutz laaretz, I will likely end up in Nachal, though I may try to convince them to let me go to Golani because I plan on comitting 3 years either way. Going to try out and hopefully get into the Gadsar, otherwise I'll try to go to NCO course for squad leaders.

Stan187 · 10-07-2007, 20:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sappersgt

Don't worry, you've got time. When you find a girlfriend and believe me it will happen, you won't think about much else.

That's what my girlfriend was hoping for.

RamHammer · 10-07-2007, 23:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Stan187

Not currently in any. I'm going in a few months, probably will get drafted in the March giyus. I'm going as a mitnadev hutz laaretz, I will likely end up in Nachal, though I may try to convince them to let me go to Golani because I plan on comitting 3 years either way. Going to try out and hopefully get into the Gadsar, otherwise I'll try to go to NCO course for squad leaders.

What are the bolded items?

Stan187 · 10-08-2007, 15:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RamHammer

What are the bolded items?

Mitnadvei hutz laaretz--> Foreign Volunteers

Gadsar-Gdud Siur, Reconnaisance Battalion of each Infantry Brigade, comprised of Recon, Demolitions, and Anti-Tank companies

sappersgt · 10-08-2007, 15:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Stan187

That's what my girlfriend was hoping for.

Yeah well, my girlfriend at the time was really pissed when I packed up my kit and went to Africa. Sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do.

Stan187 · 10-08-2007, 17:20 PM

For sure! Mine has a sh!t-fit anytime I even bring it up.

RamHammer · 10-08-2007, 19:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Stan187

Mitnadvei hutz laaretz--> Foreign Volunteers

Gadsar-Gdud Siur, Reconnaisance Battalion of each Infantry Brigade, comprised of Recon, Demolitions, and Anti-Tank companies

Can volunteers still join Golani, or Nahal, or something like that?

What are the requirements if you are not living in Israel to join the IDF?

Is it being a Jew, and having an Israeli passport?

brokensickle · 10-08-2007, 23:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Parihaka

Ah yes the stable and secular Iraq.
24 years of saddam and his sons.
Somewhere between 400,000 and 'over a million' Iraqis killed by him during that time.

Thats somewhere between 17,000 and 42,000 per year.

As you can imagine some years were a bit lean, like after he wiped out the marsh Arabs, but then obviously other years were bumper crops.

Husbands tortured in front of their wives until they die. Babies shot in their mothers arms, then the mothers shot in the face. Sometimes, just the mothers shot, as the babies were so young they couldn't climb out of the pits and therefore didn't need to be shot, just buried.

Then of course there was the invasions of Iran and Kuwait and the payments to suicide bombers families.

Yep, good old stable and secular Iraq.

Pari,

Blasting Ramster....I love the Jewish people, but Ramster needs a reality check. Didn't Ram hear the threats of SoDamInsane to wipe Israel of the map?
Perhaps Ramster is Hesbolla or Hamas....He doesn't seem to appreciate the efforts that American, British, Italian, Japanese, Austrailian Etc. made to help secure and stabilize the Middle East from the tyranny of Radical Islam. Maybe we should just pull out? The Hessies and Hammies would just love that.

Ivan
Molokane, Subbotniki, Doukhobor, Pro-semite, Christian, Lover of GOD.

brokensickle · 10-09-2007, 00:03 AM

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Originally Posted by RamHammer

I just joined today, and I have been looking for a poltical forum for some time now. Glad I have found one.

Anyways, on to me!

My name is Edan Ram, and I am 16 years old. I am very involved in politics , and interested in what is going on in the world I live in. I love metal, especially heavy/death metal.

I LOVE history, simple as that.

Some of my political stances:

Pro-choice: If you are against abortion. don't have it. There are times when it must be done, ie. rape

Pro-Israel: My dad was in the IDF for four years; he fought in the First Lebanon War.

Anti-Bush: I do not align myself with political parties; I take each issue that is presented, and take a stand.

Anti Iraq War: I can go on for hours about this. Sadam was bad, yes, but it was stable and secular. The U.S. took out the prop that was holding it all together; no more prop, and it is a big mess now.

I will be sure to post in the Iraq War section.

Well, that is enough for now. Plus, I have some homework to attend to.

Welcome...I think...Hope to read some sensible posting from you though.

Why Death Metal? Is that prophetic of your way of thinking?

Ivan
Molokane, Subbotniki, Doukhobor, Pro-semite, Christian, Lover of GOD.

RamHammer · 10-09-2007, 00:06 AM

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Originally Posted by brokensickle

Pari,

Blasting Ramster....I love the Jewish people, but Ramster needs a reality check. Didn't Ram hear the threats of SoDamInsane to wipe Israel of the map?
Perhaps Ramster is Hesbolla or Hamas....He doesn't seem to appreciate the efforts that American, British, Italian, Japanese, Austrailian Etc. made to help secure and stabilize the Middle East from the tyranny of Radical Islam. Maybe we should just pull out? The Hessies and Hammies would just love that.

Ivan
Molokane, Subbotniki, Doukhobor, Pro-semite, Christian, Lover of GOD.

So, why do you think that Israel took out Iraq's nuclear reactor in '81. Or was it '80?

Iran is doing that now. They are constantly getting threats, and can defend themselves.

How would Iraq wipe out Israel? Has the collation found any WMDs?

I like metal, which includes many sub-genres, with death metal being one of them. It's almost like an addiction: You start with just plain old metal, like megadeth. Then, you seek something "heavier", and you go to scream-o. Then, you need something even "heavier", and you go to death metal. It's just the way it works.

10-07-2007, 05:57 AM	#47 (permalink)
Ray Postmaster General *Military Professional* Join Date: 08-20-03 Posts: 26,144 Country:	Ram Hammer, You are an interesting chap. Your views are also very interesting, especially when one is just about settling down to have a beer and have a nice quiet day! Earthquakes and tsunamis become secondary matter to ponder about. I am sure with you around there will be no dull moments. Be around. No offence meant. Don't worry about the flak that you are receiving. This is called baptism under fire. If you survive, then you have arrived! __________________ "Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination." I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to. HAKUNA MATATA Last edited by Ray : 10-07-2007 at 06:02 AM.

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Stan187 WAB BOUNCER *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 11-24-06 Posts: 2,325 Country:	For sure! Mine has a sh!t-fit anytime I even bring it up.

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