Top 5 Best Trained Infantry - Page 4

brownboi4eva · 09-17-2005, 21:38 PM

We are talking training....so pretty much we are putting all the soldiers into battle with the same support system and weapons and resources...and the only defining factor is tactics and training...and this is where i think the US lacks, but heck they dont even need it...especially when a squadron of B52's are done with an area

Pure training- Indian Army, British Army, Israeli Army

giggs88 · 09-17-2005, 22:29 PM

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Originally Posted by brownboi4eva

and the only defining factor is tactics and training...and this is where i think the US lacks

You are very well informed..........NOT.

Anon · 09-18-2005, 03:54 AM

"Snipe, are there any reasons you happened choose the 101st instead of say....the 82nd? Just curious."

The 101st is an Air Assault division with a massive organic Apache contingent and unparalelled mobility.

The 82d is Airborne light infantry.

Gun Grape · 09-18-2005, 04:09 AM

Who has the best trained infantry? Everyone and no one. It really depends on what you want to do with them.

I'm in agreement with OoE. The answer for me is Who do I want to have fighting alongside me. Or whos peremeter would I be comfortable sleeping in.

If I'm conducting artic ops I don't want that US Army Mech Div. I want British RMs or Royal Netherland Marines.

But if I'm in extreme high altitude then Indian or Pak troops. And please don't start on which are better.

Large scale Amphib ops? Uncle Sams Misguided children

I could keep going but before you decide whos best define the varables.

giggs88 · 09-18-2005, 14:59 PM

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Originally Posted by M21Sniper

"Snipe, are there any reasons you happened choose the 101st instead of say....the 82nd? Just curious."

The 101st is an Air Assault division with a massive organic Apache contingent and unparalelled mobility.

The 82d is Airborne light infantry.

k. thanks.

**TopHatter** · 09-18-2005, 21:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Gun Grape

Who has the best trained infantry? Everyone and no one. It really depends on what you want to do with them.
I'm in agreement with OoE. The answer for me is Who do I want to have fighting alongside me. Or whos peremeter would I be comfortable sleeping in.
If I'm conducting artic ops I don't want that US Army Mech Div. I want British RMs or Royal Netherland Marines.
But if I'm in extreme high altitude then Indian or Pak troops. And please don't start on which are better.
Large scale Amphib ops? Uncle Sams Misguided children
I could keep going but before you decide whos best define the varables.

Hey Gunny, I loved your "Who to bring when you are in (blank) environment.
Got any more geographic locations or situations?

Chino · 09-19-2005, 00:11 AM

Best infantry troopers in the post WW2 era - in no particular order:

UK
UK Gurkha
China PLA
North Korea
South Korea
NVA
Vietcong
Australia
Thailand
South Africa
Rhodesia
Israel

Most countries have pretty good armed forces and good quality fighting men. The ones I mentioned are those whom have fought in big and small conflicts post-WW2 and have proven themselves in battle. And all these are normal infantrymen, not considering Commandos, SpecOps etc.

**Officer of Engineers** · 09-19-2005, 00:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Chino

Vietcong

How did you come to this conclusion that they're good infanteers?

lemontree · 09-19-2005, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by M21Sniper

"Excluding the Gurkhas and RM, what is the adm back up of the troops. Like cook houses?"

The 75th Rangers have a very small logistical tail, the 101st actually has a huge logistical tail(bigger even than a mech div), a typical US Army light infantry division has a much smaller tail.

As far as total consumption of supplies etc, i'd really have to look it up- if i could even find the info on line.

Snip,
I did not mean it at Div level, but battalion level. To make it specific, can one deploy your infantry battalions on mountains in the manner below, and ensure that all meals for troops are hot meals and not emergency ration tins?
- Platoon or in some cases section posts at separate locations from the company HQ, covering a frontage of say 1.5 km and a depth of about 1 km.

shek, please do give your inputs too.

**Officer of Engineers** · 09-19-2005, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by lemontree

To make it specific, can one deploy your infantry battalions on mountains in the manner below, and ensure that all meals for troops are hot meals and not emergency ration tins?

Captain, inside of six months of any longterm American deployment, not only will they have hotmeals but also a shopping mall wtih a Starbucks and a cinema with 1st run movies - just kidding, they're second run movies.

lemontree · 09-19-2005, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

Captain, inside of six months of any longterm American deployment, not only will they have hotmeals but also a shopping mall wtih a Starbucks and a cinema with 1st run movies - just kidding, they're second run movies.

Lol...un-doubtedly, sir.

VovaLee · 09-19-2005, 02:34 AM

1. Israel

Anon · 09-19-2005, 03:08 AM

"I'm in agreement with OoE. The answer for me is Who do I want to have fighting alongside me. Or whos peremeter would I be comfortable sleeping in."

I froze my diick off in Alaska. I can shiver with the best of them.

LOL...i hate the cold.

Anon · 09-19-2005, 03:11 AM

"Snip,
I did not mean it at Div level, but battalion level. To make it specific, can one deploy your infantry battalions on mountains in the manner below, and ensure that all meals for troops are hot meals and not emergency ration tins?"

So long as the NCA commits the appropriate support assets, i see no reason why not. Meals would be MREs the majority of the time, but that's no biggie.

"- Platoon or in some cases section posts at separate locations from the company HQ, covering a frontage of say 1.5 km and a depth of about 1 km."

Any US Inf. Bn could cover an AO of that size. Might be thin in some places depending on terrain, but yeah.

lemontree · 09-19-2005, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by M21Sniper

So long as the NCA commits the appropriate support assets, i see no reason why not. Meals would be MREs the majority of the time, but that's no biggie.

Pardon my ignorance of your abreviations. Whats "MRE"?

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Any US Inf. Bn could cover an AO of that size. Might be thin in some places depending on terrain, but yeah.

I never doubted that, just checking on the administration aspect.

09-17-2005, 21:38 PM	#46 (permalink)
brownboi4eva Patron Join Date: 07-17-05 Posts: 197	We are talking training....so pretty much we are putting all the soldiers into battle with the same support system and weapons and resources...and the only defining factor is tactics and training...and this is where i think the US lacks, but heck they dont even need it...especially when a squadron of B52's are done with an area Pure training- Indian Army, British Army, Israeli Army __________________ What doesnt kill me, Just makes me stronger :cool: Last edited by brownboi4eva : 09-17-2005 at 21:42 PM.

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09-18-2005, 03:54 AM	#48 (permalink)
Anon New Member Join Date: 08-03-03 Posts: 0	"Snipe, are there any reasons you happened choose the 101st instead of say....the 82nd? Just curious." The 101st is an Air Assault division with a massive organic Apache contingent and unparalelled mobility. The 82d is Airborne light infantry.

09-18-2005, 04:09 AM	#49 (permalink)
Gun Grape Resident Curmudgeon *Military Professional* Join Date: 03-12-05 Location: Panama City Fl Posts: 2,566	Who has the best trained infantry? Everyone and no one. It really depends on what you want to do with them. I'm in agreement with OoE. The answer for me is Who do I want to have fighting alongside me. Or whos peremeter would I be comfortable sleeping in. If I'm conducting artic ops I don't want that US Army Mech Div. I want British RMs or Royal Netherland Marines. But if I'm in extreme high altitude then Indian or Pak troops. And please don't start on which are better. Large scale Amphib ops? Uncle Sams Misguided children I could keep going but before you decide whos best define the varables.

09-19-2005, 00:11 AM	#52 (permalink)
Chino Regular Join Date: 09-10-05 Posts: 53	Best infantry troopers in the post WW2 era - in no particular order: UK UK Gurkha China PLA North Korea South Korea NVA Vietcong Australia Thailand South Africa Rhodesia Israel Most countries have pretty good armed forces and good quality fighting men. The ones I mentioned are those whom have fought in big and small conflicts post-WW2 and have proven themselves in battle. And all these are normal infantrymen, not considering Commandos, SpecOps etc.

09-19-2005, 02:34 AM	#57 (permalink)
VovaLee Patron Join Date: 06-23-05 Location: Moscow Posts: 189	1. Israel

09-19-2005, 03:08 AM	#58 (permalink)
Anon New Member Join Date: 08-03-03 Posts: 0	"I'm in agreement with OoE. The answer for me is Who do I want to have fighting alongside me. Or whos peremeter would I be comfortable sleeping in." I froze my diick off in Alaska. I can shiver with the best of them. LOL...i hate the cold.

09-19-2005, 03:11 AM	#59 (permalink)
Anon New Member Join Date: 08-03-03 Posts: 0	"Snip, I did not mean it at Div level, but battalion level. To make it specific, can one deploy your infantry battalions on mountains in the manner below, and ensure that all meals for troops are hot meals and not emergency ration tins?" So long as the NCA commits the appropriate support assets, i see no reason why not. Meals would be MREs the majority of the time, but that's no biggie. "- Platoon or in some cases section posts at separate locations from the company HQ, covering a frontage of say 1.5 km and a depth of about 1 km." Any US Inf. Bn could cover an AO of that size. Might be thin in some places depending on terrain, but yeah.

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