M1A2 vs T-80U

BUFFB52 · 08-05-2003, 23:39 PM

Now, of course we have the superior trainees...but in terms of performance which overall is the better tank? And which carries the better Armour?

Anon · 08-06-2003, 01:39 AM

The M-1A1HA/A2, Leo II and Chalenger II are really in a class all their own.

A formation of T-80s would stand little chance against a formation of the big3, even with properly trained crews...something that all operators of T series tanks seem to universally lack.

BUFFB52 · 08-06-2003, 22:41 PM

Does the M1A2 carry the 'Chobham'(however you spell it) armour that the Challenger 2 carries?

Anon · 08-06-2003, 22:58 PM

All M-1's do. The A1HA and newer also have Depleted Uranium armor panels as well.

BUFFB52 · 08-06-2003, 23:09 PM

Is the Chobham, on the Leopard ll?

It has proven to be very effective type of armour from what I've read of.

Anon · 08-07-2003, 01:06 AM

Chobham is used on all versions of the Leo II, Abrams and Challenger.

Chobham equivelant armor is used on the LeClerk.

Supposedly the T-80U and newer have some sort of composite armor, but it's totally unproven in combat.

BUFFB52 · 08-07-2003, 18:35 PM

What shocks me in the turbine engine in the M1, kicks the 68 tons of devastating steel at about 45mph.

I think it has the most powerful tank engine ever to be placed inside a tank.

Anon · 08-07-2003, 18:53 PM

With the governer disabled the early M-1s could do 70 mph.

At the test track in detroit with no turret installed M-1's hit 90mph.

LOL, that's hauling ass.

bigross86 · 08-07-2003, 20:15 PM

But what's the point of driving it without the turret, except for getting a really big Afro?

Anon · 08-07-2003, 20:22 PM

I dunno, validating the tracks and suspension i guess.

Probably just because it was fun as hell, LOL.

BUFFB52 · 08-07-2003, 21:09 PM

Damn that is fast! I heard the speed the M1 reaches would make most tanks tracks fall right off...

I wouldn't want to face an M1 or Challenger ll.

Brits really made a good tank with the Challenger.

Stinger · 08-08-2003, 09:43 AM

T series tanks do surpass the M1 in the "flying frying pan" manuever.

Anon · 08-08-2003, 14:06 PM

LOL! Indeed they do Stinger.

2DREZQ · 08-08-2003, 20:04 PM

So....
Your nice Highway Patrol Officer is sitting on an approach late one night. His radar beeps.... 70...70...70...70. And it's a 45 zone. He doesn't recognize the headlight configuration, but that doesn't matter, this guys gonna get a ticket...

"OK, Officer Jensen (Sargent speaking), How is it that a speeder CRUSHED your cruiser to FOUR INCHES THICK???? And you didn't even get a license number!"

TNP · 08-11-2003, 17:12 PM

But wouldnt the T-80(UD/84/90/90S), with the range provided to them by
the AT-11 sniper ATGM's be able to strike the M1A2 from farther
away? They would not pierce its armour, but nevertheless, the explosion
would render ineffective their advanced targeting sights.

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2DREZQ Contributor Join Date: 08-04-03 Posts: 702	So.... Your nice Highway Patrol Officer is sitting on an approach late one night. His radar beeps.... 70...70...70...70. And it's a 45 zone. He doesn't recognize the headlight configuration, but that doesn't matter, this guys gonna get a ticket... "OK, Officer Jensen (Sargent speaking), How is it that a speeder CRUSHED your cruiser to FOUR INCHES THICK???? And you didn't even get a license number!" __________________ USS North Dakota

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08-06-2003, 01:39 AM	#2 (permalink)
Anon New Member Join Date: 08-03-03 Posts: 0	The M-1A1HA/A2, Leo II and Chalenger II are really in a class all their own. A formation of T-80s would stand little chance against a formation of the big3, even with properly trained crews...something that all operators of T series tanks seem to universally lack.

08-06-2003, 22:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
BUFFB52 Regular Join Date: 08-02-03 Posts: 116	Does the M1A2 carry the 'Chobham'(however you spell it) armour that the Challenger 2 carries?

08-06-2003, 22:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
Anon New Member Join Date: 08-03-03 Posts: 0	All M-1's do. The A1HA and newer also have Depleted Uranium armor panels as well.

08-06-2003, 23:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
BUFFB52 Regular Join Date: 08-02-03 Posts: 116	Is the Chobham, on the Leopard ll? It has proven to be very effective type of armour from what I've read of.

08-07-2003, 01:06 AM	#6 (permalink)
Anon New Member Join Date: 08-03-03 Posts: 0	Chobham is used on all versions of the Leo II, Abrams and Challenger. Chobham equivelant armor is used on the LeClerk. Supposedly the T-80U and newer have some sort of composite armor, but it's totally unproven in combat.

08-07-2003, 18:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
BUFFB52 Regular Join Date: 08-02-03 Posts: 116	What shocks me in the turbine engine in the M1, kicks the 68 tons of devastating steel at about 45mph. I think it has the most powerful tank engine ever to be placed inside a tank.

08-07-2003, 18:53 PM	#8 (permalink)
Anon New Member Join Date: 08-03-03 Posts: 0	With the governer disabled the early M-1s could do 70 mph. At the test track in detroit with no turret installed M-1's hit 90mph. LOL, that's hauling ass.

08-07-2003, 20:22 PM	#10 (permalink)
Anon New Member Join Date: 08-03-03 Posts: 0	I dunno, validating the tracks and suspension i guess. Probably just because it was fun as hell, LOL.

08-07-2003, 21:09 PM	#11 (permalink)
BUFFB52 Regular Join Date: 08-02-03 Posts: 116	Damn that is fast! I heard the speed the M1 reaches would make most tanks tracks fall right off... I wouldn't want to face an M1 or Challenger ll. Brits really made a good tank with the Challenger.

08-08-2003, 14:06 PM	#13 (permalink)
Anon New Member Join Date: 08-03-03 Posts: 0	LOL! Indeed they do Stinger.

08-11-2003, 17:12 PM	#15 (permalink)
TNP Regular Join Date: 08-06-03 Location: Oakville Posts: 96	But wouldnt the T-80(UD/84/90/90S), with the range provided to them by the AT-11 sniper ATGM's be able to strike the M1A2 from farther away? They would not pierce its armour, but nevertheless, the explosion would render ineffective their advanced targeting sights.

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