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Old 04-18-2005, 15:52 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Were those NATO-like uniforms being sold by NATO soldiers? Don't think so.

Why not? Or this uniforms enchanted by special defensive spells (Spell Book level 7, AD&D setting) and empower it’s wearer with great dignity and holiness? Barter system works well – Jack will give Ivan his boots, Ivan will give Jack his coat.
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I don't want any t-shirts or "like" uniforms. I'm talking about the genuine article. Greatcoats, shapka, etc. Can you help me?
Well, let me think. There are plenty of such spots. Not too long time ago militia closed down trade-spot near Byelorussian Vokzal – some USSR uniforms, some modern Russian uniforms for sale. Not too expensive. About a month ago i visited ВДНХ and seen similar small shop. Unfortunately, they do not have websites.

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Well, there was a robust trade between Russian vodka and American cigerrettes.
Good healthy trade – what can be better for relationship improvement?
One disadvantage - morning hangover.
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Old 04-18-2005, 15:56 PM   #17 (permalink)
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You are as moron as to said US Navy would overwhem every navies in the world.
hey *******, i never said that the US NAvy would overwhem every navy in the world.

but if you want to talk about that, thats the truth.
no navy in the world can touch Americas.
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Old 04-18-2005, 15:59 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Любопытно, ты русский (или житель экс-CCCР ) или просто колоритную аватару примерил?
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Old 04-18-2005, 16:03 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Why not? Or this uniforms enchanted by special defensive spells (Spell Book level 7, AD&D setting) and empower it’s wearer with great dignity and holiness? Barter system works well – Jack will give Ivan his boots, Ivan will give Jack his coat.
Or something like that.

Well, let me think. There are plenty of such spots. Not too long time ago militia closed down trade-spot near Byelorussian Vokzal – some USSR uniforms, some modern Russian uniforms for sale. Not too expensive. About a month ago i visited ВДНХ and seen similar small shop. Unfortunately, they do not have websites.
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Oh get real...
Geez, remind not to attempt a serious conversation with you

Thanks for the trade-spot info though, interesting.
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Old 04-18-2005, 16:11 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Oh get real...
Already as real as possible. Any army consists of humans.

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Old 04-18-2005, 16:17 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Любопытно, ты русский (или житель экс-CCCР ) или просто колоритную аватару примерил?
i am Russian, half mothers side, and she is a Russian Tartar.

my father is Armenian, and i was born in Tibilisi.
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Old 04-18-2005, 16:34 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Already as real as possible. Any army consists of humans.



Vox audita latet, littera scripta manet

I'm talking about that D&D crap.

Nice Latin. What's your point, that your fanciful posts will remain forever? Yeah, you got that right.
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Old 04-18-2005, 16:38 PM   #23 (permalink)
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"hey *******, i never said that the US NAvy would overwhem every navy in the world.

but if you want to talk about that, thats the truth.
no navy in the world can touch Americas."

Quite correct IMO.
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Old 04-18-2005, 17:13 PM   #24 (permalink)
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"hey *******, i never said that the US NAvy would overwhem every navy in the world.

but if you want to talk about that, thats the truth.
no navy in the world can touch Americas."

Quite correct IMO.
im not surprised you agree.
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Old 04-18-2005, 17:30 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Anyone who's spent any amount of time analyzing naval power indepth(as i did when writing the v16.8 upgrade to Janes Fleet Command) would almost certainly come to the same conclusion.

US naval dominance is simply overwhelming.
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Old 04-18-2005, 18:21 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Why not? Or this uniforms enchanted by special defensive spells (Spell Book level 7, AD&D setting) and empower it’s wearer with great dignity and holiness? Barter system works well – Jack will give Ivan his boots, Ivan will give Jack his coat.
Or something like that.
Difference between Russian Army and American Army. We are well supplied, the Russian Army is not. We do not need to sell our equipment for basic supplies, the Russian Army does on occasion (in Chechnya that was a big problem). Illustration, our army has never had to take active divisions to help bring in the harvest in order to feed ourselves.
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Old 04-18-2005, 18:23 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Anyone who's spent any amount of time analyzing naval power indepth(as i did when writing the v16.8 upgrade to Janes Fleet Command) would almost certainly come to the same conclusion.

US naval dominance is simply overwhelming.
Agreed. With the number of carriers we possess, and the battlegroups surrounding them, there simply isn't a match. Our naval dominance is far greater than what the British possessed during the Victorian or Napoleonic eras, even factoring air powers' sea denial ability into the equation.
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Old 04-18-2005, 22:53 PM   #28 (permalink)
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As Cicero said, "The Sinews of War are Infinite Money". You can't just ignore the fact that our military budget is 10 times larger then theirs. To do so is to render a result with no relevence to reality.
not 10 times larger, about 8 times, would bea more realistic figure
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Old 04-18-2005, 22:54 PM   #29 (permalink)
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3/4ths of the armor and rotary aircraft are in storage and with reserve units. Most of it is absolete garbarge that only serves to add another target to the battlefield.

The US has about 5,000 M1 Abrams in service with the Army and USMC and another 10,000 M60's and M1 Abrams (early versians ) in storage.

The budget for the US military last year including Iraq and Afghanistan was 500 billion dollars. That is the size of half of Russias entire GDP.
another mistake, it amounted to $400 billion approx. and even $500 billion is not half the Russian economy, the Russian economy is worth some $450+ billion
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Old 04-18-2005, 23:01 PM   #30 (permalink)
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No contest, U.S. would win hands down. I remember seeing the Russian Army at it's finest. I was at Red Square with some other tourists, when all of a sudden a group of Russian Army soldiers that was standing around near our tour bus suddenly started jumping into a big pile, pushing and shoving each other out of way. WTF? It turns out that one of the tourists had tossed a pack of cigarettes to one of the soldiers, and they damn near killed each other over a pack of cigarettes. You can count all the tanks, planes, and ships that you want, but when you put a conscript army up against a professional army, you're putting someone whose heart isn't into it, up against someone who knows exactly why he's there.

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that doesn't mean anything, they could have been joking around, a person is not born with courage, he is taught courage, you heard that quote before? have you also noticed that when someone forces you to do something, rather than when they give you a choice, when they give you a choice, you tend to become lazy and don't really do it at your finest capabilities, while if you're forced to do it, you feel the pressure to do your best, as long as you're not pressured to do it quickly

"Difference between Russian Army and American Army. We are well supplied, the Russian Army is not."

another misconception, Russia has enough money to support a force of 500,000 professional soldiers, currently, they have approx. 1 million soldiers, so they're just short by about a half, not that badly supplied

is this just the army, like ground forces, or the entire military, either way, America would defeat Russia, Period.(well, that is for now)
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