India to acquire 400 more tanks from Russia - Page 2

Samudra · 06-28-2005, 02:35 AM

Trishul is a failure.I dont think much is going to come out of it.Maybe an Indo-Israeli project to developt a Barak-II ?

Marut again failed because of the engine.

If you note , the country is trying to gain some errrm self-reliance in arms and has failed many a times at it.

Our labs arent delivering the moon either and our forces wont except anything but the best...there is this gap.Until we are able to plug the gap , discrepancies as such pointed out will continue.

troung · 06-28-2005, 02:37 AM

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Hey , the INSAS is being manufactured and in substantial numbers.

Never said it wasn't...

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As for the Ak-47 , i think it is will be mainly used in area CI intensive areas.

I don't want to sound rude but it seems like someone couldn't make up their mind on bullet/small arm issues. I have heard the line of reasoning before about using two different assault rifles in two different calibers for what really amounts to the same mission...

India is also picking up the Tavor for special forces units. That could be simply written off as SF units wanting to feel "sexier"...

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If you note , the country is trying to gain some errrm self-reliance in arms and has failed many a times at it. Our labs arent delivering the moon either and our forces wont except anything but the best...there is this gap.Until we are able to plug the gap , discrepancies as such pointed out will continue.

Ok that was what I had been getting at. Not trying to insult you guys...

Samudra · 06-28-2005, 02:41 AM

Dude , i know very little about small arms , so dont ask me why arent using INSAS in all places.

There was a report long back that US soldiers were using AKs while on certain missions...i was trying to explain this case in relation with that.

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Not trying to insult you guys...

I know you were not.

troung · 06-28-2005, 02:47 AM

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Dude , i know very little about small arms , so dont ask me why arent using INSAS in all places.

No problem. I have heard the official reason for the two different guns.

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There was a report long back that US soldiers were using AKs while on certain missions...i was trying to explain this case in relation with that.

The AK-47 works much better for combat then an M-9 pistol...

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I know you were not

Ok thanks. I just had to make sure.

Samudra · 06-28-2005, 02:54 AM

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I have heard the official reason for the two different guns.

What is it ?

Wraith601 · 06-28-2005, 02:56 AM

The only reason some US troops have AKs was that armor and artillery units that were called on to operate as infantry didn't have enough M-16s/M-4s. That problem has been largely corrected to my knowledge.

bull · 06-28-2005, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by troung

Off topic this does make me wonder about the India local defense industries...

Arjun - T-90
LCA - MRCA
INSAS - AK-47
Trisusal (?) - Barak
Marut - Su-7

Probably a few more...

As Samudra said,if the products are not satisfactory it is better to dicard it and go for the best import.Rather than trying to appease the EGO.

But at the same time what is your opinion on pinaka and Brahmos?, i believe these are under induction.

sniperdude411 · 06-28-2005, 10:21 AM

I believe also.

Cowboykiller · 07-29-2005, 04:52 AM

It only takes a squadron of AH-64D's or Warthog II's to destroy those piece of **** Russian tanks.

Jay · 07-29-2005, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Cowboykiller

It only takes a squadron of AH-64D's or Warthog II's to destroy those piece of **** Russian tanks.

And how many nations on the planet have them?? And Russian tanks have fared well in Indian sub continent, so keep your worthy comments to your bottomless pit.

HistoricalDavid · 07-30-2005, 11:05 AM

Good for India. The better armed they are, the more casualties they'll be able to inflict on China and Pakistan in any potential wars.

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Originally Posted by Cowboykiller

It only takes a squadron of AH-64D's or Warthog II's to destroy those piece of **** Russian tanks.

They could also do the same to Western tanks.

Cowboykiller · 07-30-2005, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay

And how many nations on the planet have them?? And Russian tanks have fared well in Indian sub continent, so keep your worthy comments to your bottomless pit.

Russian tanks don't fare well against the Apache, A-10, or the Abrams.

The t-90 isnothing but another piece of crap t-72 with some upgrades.

The old M1's are still superior to the T-90.

Cowboykiller · 07-30-2005, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by HistoricalDavid

Good for India. The better armed they are, the more casualties they'll be able to inflict on China and Pakistan in any potential wars.

They could also do the same to Western tanks.

Yeah, but India doesn't have those.

I'd pick China over India anyday. The Chinese have owned India.

Adux · 07-30-2005, 11:38 AM

why just directed towards india man....

nothing against the pakistani or the chinese,

makes me really wonder wether you are an american.....

josh

ps: sorry about your job in DELL, i kinda understand why they fired you,,,

Jonny555Biotch · 07-30-2005, 12:00 PM

An indian probably took his job maybe thats why he is so pissed at indians.

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Samudra *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 09-01-04 Location: North London Posts: 4,362 Country:	Trishul is a failure.I dont think much is going to come out of it.Maybe an Indo-Israeli project to developt a Barak-II ? Marut again failed because of the engine. If you note , the country is trying to gain some errrm self-reliance in arms and has failed many a times at it. Our labs arent delivering the moon either and our forces wont except anything but the best...there is this gap.Until we are able to plug the gap , discrepancies as such pointed out will continue. Last edited by Samudra : 06-28-2005 at 02:53 AM.

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