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Old 04-27-2008, 09:22 AM   #46 (permalink)
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He spent too much time fiddling with his "back-up SKS"
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Old 04-27-2008, 11:40 AM   #47 (permalink)
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Old 05-07-2008, 21:04 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Friends, I do see some maneuver benefit in Cavalry formations for the M3.

In the present GWOT however the M113 family is probably just as well appointed for operations in the scope of a multi-terrained counter terror campaign.

As an aside SOP usually renders the top two weapons system on the Bradleys outside of some of the use of force guidance so the vehicle is treated as an overkill/reserve implement.

I feel the M113 is today one of the most underexploited vehicles/weapons platforms. It is ironically well exploited by others such as our allies & even civilian law enforcement.
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Old 05-07-2008, 22:26 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Friends, I do see some maneuver benefit in Cavalry formations for the M3.

In the present GWOT however the M113 family is probably just as well appointed for operations in the scope of a multi-terrained counter terror campaign.

As an aside SOP usually renders the top two weapons system on the Bradleys outside of some of the use of force guidance so the vehicle is treated as an overkill/reserve implement.

I feel the M113 is today one of the most underexploited vehicles/weapons platforms. It is ironically well exploited by others such as our allies & even civilian law enforcement.
In what school system did they teach you to mangle the English language so badly?

The M113 does CASEVAC, comms and Maintenance well these days...that is about it.

Are seriously saying that the M2s are NOT using their 25mm when needed?
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The bradley will be replaced with the Stryker
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Nope, isn't planned.
These kids should lay off the chocolate milk.
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Number One Daughter give you a run for your money with the Nesquik again?
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Old 05-12-2008, 21:54 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Chocolate milk = good.

btw the new Brad cant swim b/c they added the extra armour right?
Also isnt the real crew of a m2 3 + 7? Everyone says its 6 but im pretty sure its 7....
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According to US Army field manual 3-21-71, a Bradley takes three crews to operate and carries seven passangers. Six troops sit in the main passanger compartment, but one more can fit in small space behind the driver seat, back to back to the driver. Bradlies do not swim, at least not without a Rudy Goldberg device.

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They only way that Bradleys swim is straight down.
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1. The M2, M2A1(-), and M2A1 all could swim. I personally swam one as a company comamnder. With the M2A2 ODS and on, the Army got smart and dropped the firing port weapons (THANK GOD!!!!!) and added additional armor. It was recognized that since we were no longer going to have to fight the Great War III in Europe the swim requirement was dropped from the MENS.

2. The Army has procured 7 BCTs worth of Strykers...that's it. No more planned. The M1206 ICV will replace the M2.

https://www.fcs.army.mil/systems/icv/index.html

3. Drink beer instead of chocalate milk...lets you think more clearly.
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They only way that Bradleys swim is straight down.

So it is a diver's vehicle? Sweet! Remind me to tell you about the time my dive team was on a sinking boat.
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Old 05-13-2008, 21:16 PM   #59 (permalink)
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3. Drink beer instead of chocalate milk...lets you think more clearly.
Too young. Unless you wanna go to jail for me?

I think the bradley is a good vehicle but a little to vulnerable to ieds. Not a lot of soldiers have been kill in e but a lot have been destroyed.

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I think the bradley is a good vehicle but a little to vulnerable to ieds. Not a lot of soldiers have been kill in e but a lot have been destroyed.
Um, what vehicle isn't vulnerable to an IED??

And your second statement was exactly what the Bradley was designed for: Crew survivability at the expense of the vehicle.
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