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Old 02-28-2008, 14:29 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Thats the best source for your argument you can put up?

But as some have alluded to above it does bull the regiment up a bit. I think they have avoided the budgetary axe
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because the organisation produce good infantry man (comparable to army line regiments.)
What absolute and total crap

Also the RAF have had considerable political clout since WWII out of all proportion to their size or effectiveness.
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Look how many joint organisations are run by the RAF.
Unfortunately my own Regiment on Almagemation suffered the idignity of becoming The Joint NBC regt aligned with the RAF.....The only time i have been happy about being retired.

NB: As to effectiveness I was alluding to bombing not air-to-air. Nor do I wish to cast any aspersions on the bravery or professionalism of the force's members.
This is not a new discussion within military circles, the RAF Regt (effectionatley known as Rock apes, thanks Glyn for pointing that out) they have always strived to find an identiity, and cannot accept the role they have, Rock apes trying to do Infantry roles in hot zones would be akin to a Tanky after a bottle of Glenfiddich trying to fly a Tornado........one difference the Tanky would probably get it of the ground
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Old 03-25-2008, 10:49 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Alot of info I can find about the RAF Reg being part of the SFSG seems to be posts by Marines and Para's mouthing off about how the RAF Reg don't deserve to be there.
One thing I have definitely picked up from arrse.com and even the recruiters is that many branches and regiments of HM Armed Forces dislike most, if not all others. In particular there are volumes of posts portraying the Guards and Line Infantry as second fiddle to the Paras (TBH I don't see how you can compare parachute infantry to armoured infantry but I'm still a civilian), and a 1300+ post thread deriding the RAF Regiment. I guess this may be the flip-side of instilling such value in regimental identity; sure enough it ensures your troops will be proud of their unit, but they also seem to view all their competitors as useless.

I suppose that's how it goes. I doubt the RAF would be spending their limited cash on the Gunners if they saw no value in keeping them, especially since they got stung for something like 7000 redundancies not long ago.
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SpoonmaN, are you any nearer to your goal? Do keep us informed.
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SpoonmaN, are you any nearer to your goal? Do keep us informed.
Got selection on the 2nd, if all goes well then I'll know after that. Wish me luck.
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Got selection on the 2nd, if all goes well then I'll know after that. Wish me luck.
I whole-heartedly do!
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Got selection on the 2nd, if all goes well then I'll know after that. Wish me luck.
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Old 03-26-2008, 17:06 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Old 03-27-2008, 06:26 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Very well done. Now the hard work starts. Don't sit on your laurels, keep at it and give it your all. If you have the time and inclination, do tell us more ..ie. Regiment..training dates..trade you wish to go into etc.
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Very well done. Now the hard work starts. Don't sit on your laurels, keep at it and give it your all. If you have the time and inclination, do tell us more ..ie. Regiment..training dates..trade you wish to go into etc.
Will do, at present I'm going for Infantryman with The Rifles, with the Royal Irish being my second preference. By the sounds of it, if I pass Selection then that's where I'll end up, currently I have my heart set on either the 1st Battalion or the 5th Battalion, but in any event that's a long way off.
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So you went across the water did you?? Well done man and good luck.
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Old 04-24-2008, 18:33 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Im new to this site and only joined because of the total rubbish being said about my Regiment. I have been in the RAF Regiment for 20 years and i think i should set the record straight about the utter nonsence being said.
Firstly we are trained to be Combat Infantry Soldiers, our basic training is 27 weeks long, all our training is from the British Army pamphlets and all our Wpn training is under the control of a Army WO1 Weapon Instructor.After basic training our Gunners train to be either SF Machine Gunners, Para, 81mm Mortars, CBRN, Dispatch Riders and many more. Unlike the Blue Air Force as we call them, the RAF Regt MUST pass pre Para selection(P company) before they do the Jumps course at Brize Norton. Our role is Force Protection around our Forward Operating Bases which means we do all our work outside the Airfield in the form of aggresive patrolling in order to dominate the ground,prevent Insurgent attacks and allow our aircraft to operate,this role as resulted in many contacts with the enemy in both Iraq and Afghan. We are not front line troops as that is not our role, however we have to be Infantry trained to do our job and often get sent to support Army Inf units. We do not guard Airfields, that is the RAF Police job. If it wasnt for the RAF Regiment the Aircraft bringing in the Army to theatre and more importantly taking them back home again wouldnt be able to operate. We are not REMFs,
try telling that to the 8 RAF REGIMENT Gunners who have been killed in action in the last 6 months, plus the 2 Military Cross's, several Mention in dispatches and Queens Comendations for Bravery that have been awarded. We are good at our job and have the utmost respect for the Army and Marines all we ask for is a little back.
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OK rockape87, how about going to Introductions to tell us about yourself? You might like to complete your Public Profile at the same time.
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rockape87, I mean no disrespect my friend/sir, however I suggest you locate your sense of humour and remove it from it's packaging. Two days at the ADSC taught me that slagging eachother off is an integral part of Military life, I would think 27 weeks of training would make one more than used to it.
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Old 04-25-2008, 16:31 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Having read threads on the subject of the RAF Regt it strikes me that the majority of the writers suffer from severe inferiority disorders. Unable to grasp even a small inkling of military operations; a tag worrying in today's world. Tigger cs 30 is a case in hand, a man who it would appear spent his life in a tank - just what do you know apart from not roughing it. The Army always made me smile when they came on to RAF Stations, bigging it up as if the RAF had never seen the Army up close before, you could here the yawns for miles. The RM never did because they didn't have to & I have sunk many a tin with them. The Paras, well they were just pathetic in their attempts to 'impress'. These writers however all have one thing in common, they 'heard' they 'have a mate who said' there is a 'rumour' but never anything specific. I have seen the Army in action, take GW1, the Army's NBC drills and eqpt were abysmal to the point that Winterbourne Gunner had to go out to salvage the situation. In their report they conceded the RAF were light years ahead and this set against 'Line Infantry'. There are complete idiots, as these thread demonstrate, in all areas on the military and those in glass houses should not throw stones. The RAF Regt has a massive allegiance towards each other regardless of rank , train hard and have shown their metal in action both in Iraq and Afgan but never mentioned by the so called 'in the know' types in these threads, I wonder why? Now lets see who has a sense of humour failure?
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