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Old 09-21-2007, 15:21 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Sorry but US and British arms deals and assistance with Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Pakistan, Oman, the Mujahedeen and even post-'79 Iran - Iran-Contra Affair, anyone? - and such dodgy countries means that the France-bashing falls to double standards for most people.
Aint double standards the foundation of world politics, and for the person who has the most influence, those double standards are converted into legitimate laws.


short sighted political moves at best, but then again i am a amateur

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Old 09-21-2007, 16:03 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Aint double standards the foundation of world politics,
As far as I'm aware, none of the members here are world politicians. And even if some are, it's a discussion forum, so you can hardly use the excuse of realpolitik to say you're pressured into an opinion.

Besides, how does hard-headed realism justify hypocritical and automatic France-bashing in the real world anyway?
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Old 09-21-2007, 16:05 PM   #33 (permalink)
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it is just buissnes, nothing personal.
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Old 09-21-2007, 16:16 PM   #34 (permalink)
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and the US dont?

Pakistan, Saudi Arabia?
Are we not in alliance with them?
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Old 09-21-2007, 23:59 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Are we not in alliance with them?
Very country has their priorities, strategies and views, As far as we are concerned Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are two main promoter's of terrorism, and US by supplying weapons to them are helping them.
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As far as I'm aware, none of the members here are world politicians. And even if some are, it's a discussion forum, so you can hardly use the excuse of realpolitik to say you're pressured into an opinion.

Besides, how does hard-headed realism justify hypocritical and automatic France-bashing in the real world anyway?
I dont agree with France bashing at all, Though they supply to both India and Pakistan. France does what any other country in this world does. US, Britain and Russia has no right to criticize them regarding this matter. They are all in the same boat, and its all business.
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Ever been to France or had run ins with the French? When I lived in a youth hostel I would say 80% of the fights in the bar involved some dick Frenchman beaking off at an English speaker and causing a fight.

I even got some great steriotypical incidents occur with a few of the young ones in Paris. Great country though and even better food. Too bad they don't deserve the place.

This of course is a gross generalization as I've met lots of wonderful French people and it's a shame that the ones the create the image are such douchebags that they shadow the nice ones with their taint.

EDIT// I read this statement after mine.

According to Mr Clodong, the old adage that France is wonderful, it's just the French who are the problem, is shared across Europe.

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