How many rifle rounds does your country's army fire off for training purposes?

Zhang Fei · 07-20-2007, 22:07 PM

This is on a per soldier per year basis.

**Officer of Engineers** · 07-21-2007, 00:52 AM

For the CF, if you're going on deployment in Afghanistan, you're shooting 1000-2000 rounds before you step foot in Asia.

gunnut · 07-21-2007, 01:30 AM

I fired 8 rounds of 30-06 today from my Garand...

I'm looking for my ice pack for my shoulder right now.

sappersgt · 07-21-2007, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by gunnut

I fired 8 rounds of 30-06 today from my Garand...

I'm looking for my ice pack for my shoulder right now.

I always likened firing a Garand to laying on the ground with a 2x4 against my shoulder while somebody hit the other end with a big hammer. My father loved that gun though.

Ucar · 07-21-2007, 06:54 AM

In the Turkish Armed Forces the recruits fire a minimum of 3=6 rounds during the first month o training. After that normally the rate is 3-6 per month for the rest of 14 months.

texacali · 07-21-2007, 09:33 AM

What is the current service rifle for the CF?

**Officer of Engineers** · 07-21-2007, 09:36 AM

M16c7

texacali · 07-21-2007, 09:43 AM

thank you Officer of Engineers. I presume that is an upgraded M16. I like the AR15, very accurate at medium range, use it here to shoot varmints.
Very low recoil.

gunnut · 07-22-2007, 14:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ucar

In the Turkish Armed Forces the recruits fire a minimum of 3=6 rounds during the first month o training. After that normally the rate is 3-6 per month for the rest of 14 months.

Only 3-6 rounds a month? Or you mean 3-6 magazines? You can't even get warmed up with 3-6 rounds.

braindead · 07-22-2007, 15:53 PM

no , really 3-6 rd. per month is quite probable . During my service 10 years ago monthly norm was around 10-30

.
My friends who have served in Sov.Army told that it was not uncommon to shoot 3rds. during 2-year service time .

gunnut · 07-22-2007, 16:32 PM

Ouch...how can you train a rifleman with 30 rounds a month? I fire off a few hundred in a single trip on my smaller rifles. The Garand and the 44 magnum carbine is a bit much so I limit them to less than 10. Those ammo do get expensive though.

braindead · 07-22-2007, 17:16 PM

who says we could be considered trained riflemen ?

. The proffessional units , who are on missions do the more realistic 1000rd. on training AFAIK

gunnut · 07-22-2007, 18:23 PM

I just thought even the conscripts should get a few hundred rounds at the end of bootcamp so they have proficiency for the next year or so. Then have some refresher cource every quarter or half year to maintain the skill.

braindead · 07-22-2007, 19:14 PM

unfortunately , no. During my last reserve training camp I had 10-20 live rounds at the course and for the main event ´delay battle´ (?) i was supplied with 3 (three) blanks .

Shamus · 07-22-2007, 21:25 PM

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Originally Posted by gunnut

The Garand and the 44 magnum carbine is a bit much so I limit them to less than 10. Those ammo do get expensive though.

Come on gunnut....what's it going to take to get you to come over to the Dark Side and start re-loading your own??

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braindead Lost in Translation *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 11-30-06 Location: estonia Posts: 1,256 Country:	no , really 3-6 rd. per month is quite probable . During my service 10 years ago monthly norm was around 10-30 . My friends who have served in Sov.Army told that it was not uncommon to shoot 3rds. during 2-year service time . __________________ ....

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07-21-2007, 06:54 AM	#5 (permalink)
Ucar *Military Professional* Join Date: 06-19-07 Posts: 292 Country:	In the Turkish Armed Forces the recruits fire a minimum of 3=6 rounds during the first month o training. After that normally the rate is 3-6 per month for the rest of 14 months.

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texacali Regular Join Date: 06-19-07 Location: breckenridge, texas Posts: 117 Country:	What is the current service rifle for the CF?

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Officer of Engineers *Military Professional* Moderator Scotch taster Join Date: 08-06-03 Posts: 15,915 Country:	M16c7

07-21-2007, 09:43 AM	#8 (permalink)
texacali Regular Join Date: 06-19-07 Location: breckenridge, texas Posts: 117 Country:	thank you Officer of Engineers. I presume that is an upgraded M16. I like the AR15, very accurate at medium range, use it here to shoot varmints. Very low recoil.

07-22-2007, 16:32 PM	#11 (permalink)
gunnut *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 01-27-06 Location: DPRK, Democratik People's Republik of Kalifornia Posts: 9,361 Country:	Ouch...how can you train a rifleman with 30 rounds a month? I fire off a few hundred in a single trip on my smaller rifles. The Garand and the 44 magnum carbine is a bit much so I limit them to less than 10. Those ammo do get expensive though.

07-22-2007, 17:16 PM	#12 (permalink)
braindead Lost in Translation *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 11-30-06 Location: estonia Posts: 1,256 Country:	who says we could be considered trained riflemen ? . The proffessional units , who are on missions do the more realistic 1000rd. on training AFAIK

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gunnut *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 01-27-06 Location: DPRK, Democratik People's Republik of Kalifornia Posts: 9,361 Country:	I just thought even the conscripts should get a few hundred rounds at the end of bootcamp so they have proficiency for the next year or so. Then have some refresher cource every quarter or half year to maintain the skill.

07-22-2007, 19:14 PM	#14 (permalink)
braindead Lost in Translation *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 11-30-06 Location: estonia Posts: 1,256 Country:	unfortunately , no. During my last reserve training camp I had 10-20 live rounds at the course and for the main event ´delay battle´ (?) i was supplied with 3 (three) blanks .

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