Anti armor submunitions question

urmomma158 · 05-10-2007, 19:31 PM

How good are those AT submunitions supposed to be.Specifically the BLU 108, it packs a 1lb copper EFP fired over mach 6 fired at the top of the tank where the thinnest armor is located.However how well can these submunitions aim their EFP's at specific parts of the tank. I.E. the engine exhasuts,side of the turret,glacis etc. Do these munitions simply fire at the center of the target or can they aim at specific parts and choose them intelligently or programmed?

I know the LOCAAS can aim it's EFP warhead at specific parts of the tank thanks to its LIDAR seeker however i'm not sure if the BLU 108 can do the same.

Can larger AT weapons such as the Hellfire 2 and Brimstone attack specific parts on the tank or do they just home in on the middle of the locked target?

Stan187 · 05-10-2007, 23:27 PM

As far as I understand, these submunition target the heat source. So ideally, if they are going straight, these little projectiles should hit right into the engine compartament.

Catalan · 05-11-2007, 20:40 PM

The weight of the EFP matter less than the diameter - generally, EFP get ~150mm worth of penetration. I think that rounds like SADARM generally have radar-guided submunitions and will aim for the turret roof. Unfortunately, it is becoming a larger tendency to uparmor the roof and/or add light explosive reactive armor (as well as active protection systems and camouflage nettings).

Stan187 · 05-12-2007, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catalan

The weight of the EFP matter less than the diameter - generally, EFP get ~150mm worth of penetration. I think that rounds like SADARM generally have radar-guided submunitions and will aim for the turret roof. Unfortunately, it is becoming a larger tendency to uparmor the roof and/or add light explosive reactive armor (as well as active protection systems and camouflage nettings).

Unfortunate depending on which side of the turret you are

urmomma158 · 05-19-2007, 16:19 PM

Nevermind guys I found the answer to my question. The BLU 108(version with IR+ LIDAR),STS skeet, and Bonus artillery shell submunition can accurately select aimpoints on individual targets precisely.Munitions like the SADARM will have problems against heavy ERA like the Kontact 5,Kaktus, and Relikt but the ones I listed shouldn't have any problems.

05-10-2007, 19:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
urmomma158 the real plastic *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 03-05-06 Location: NJ Turnpike Posts: 937 Country:	Anti armor submunitions question How good are those AT submunitions supposed to be.Specifically the BLU 108, it packs a 1lb copper EFP fired over mach 6 fired at the top of the tank where the thinnest armor is located.However how well can these submunitions aim their EFP's at specific parts of the tank. I.E. the engine exhasuts,side of the turret,glacis etc. Do these munitions simply fire at the center of the target or can they aim at specific parts and choose them intelligently or programmed? I know the LOCAAS can aim it's EFP warhead at specific parts of the tank thanks to its LIDAR seeker however i'm not sure if the BLU 108 can do the same. Can larger AT weapons such as the Hellfire 2 and Brimstone attack specific parts on the tank or do they just home in on the middle of the locked target? __________________ Last edited by urmomma158 : 05-10-2007 at 19:44 PM.

05-10-2007, 23:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
Stan187 WAB BOUNCER *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 11-24-06 Posts: 2,323 Country:	As far as I understand, these submunition target the heat source. So ideally, if they are going straight, these little projectiles should hit right into the engine compartament. __________________ In Iran people belive pepsi stands for pay each penny save israel. -urmomma158 The Russian Navy is still a threat, but only to those unlucky enough to be Russian sailors.-highsea

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Catalan Regular Join Date: 11-20-05 Location: San Diego [USA] or El Provencio [Spain] Posts: 121	The weight of the EFP matter less than the diameter - generally, EFP get ~150mm worth of penetration. I think that rounds like SADARM generally have radar-guided submunitions and will aim for the turret roof. Unfortunately, it is becoming a larger tendency to uparmor the roof and/or add light explosive reactive armor (as well as active protection systems and camouflage nettings). __________________ If you enjoy modern military history then join modernwarstudies.net! http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...bees/siggy.png

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05-19-2007, 16:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
urmomma158 the real plastic *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 03-05-06 Location: NJ Turnpike Posts: 937 Country:	Nevermind guys I found the answer to my question. The BLU 108(version with IR+ LIDAR),STS skeet, and Bonus artillery shell submunition can accurately select aimpoints on individual targets precisely.Munitions like the SADARM will have problems against heavy ERA like the Kontact 5,Kaktus, and Relikt but the ones I listed shouldn't have any problems.

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