Officer of Engineers

Oh, for crying out loud, NAME ONE!

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pinetreescanada

lol I might be wrong but the Chinese made tanks that are based on Russian models are a well match for the M1A1 and 2 or perhaps surpasses them.
Generally, Chinese weapons aren't as well as the Americans but still up to world superpower standards.

Officer of Engineers

Not even close and the Chinese themsevles never made such claims. Suggest you do some reading

The New Chinese Type 98 MBT: A Second Look Reveals More Details by Maj (R) J Warford.

Since there is only one world superpower, your statement is a contradiction.

The fact is that Chinese weapons fit Chinese needs, including financial constraints. They are good enough for Chinese needs but nowhere near what our battle reqs are.

Ray

Pine,

Though off topic.

They allow you to emigrate from China? As per the western stories in RD etc, they don't give the impression of a 'free' life.

Do let us know what is it there. Since you are a freshe migre, you would be more equipoised in views.

Intreging also is why did you quit China for Canada?

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Franco Lolan

Officer of Engineers,
I read The New Chinese Type 98 MBT: A Second Look Reveals More Details by Maj (R) J Warford before, and I just read it again. I have not been able to find an area where the article states that it is inferior or "the Chinese themsevles never made such claims".

"NAME ONE! [area where they have surpassed]"

ok

Active Defense Systems on armor

Officer of Engineers

Do you mean ERA, though I don't know how you can state the Chinese are more effective? Otherwise, stop reading those Hong Kong fruity newspapers or their English translations.

pinetreescanada

There is more than one world superpower but whatever that depends on how you see it.

Yes but still Chinese weapons are still pretty good.

Officer of Engineers

Not this again. The United States is the ONLY world superpower.

Which does not surpasses American systems.

Franco Lolan

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...na/type-98.htm

http://www.madogre.com/Interviews/china_Tanks.htm

http://www.defense-update.com/featur.../Hard-kill.htm

Those kinds of Active Defense Systems

Officer of Engineers

The laser blinder?

HEHEHEHEHEHEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

It doesn't work and the Chinese have long since stop putting it on their tanks.

Kontakt Era

Well, chinese major cities do not permit villagers, the poor, or any other form of poverty. Obviously the poor that is already in there is there, and will stay there, but not completely exposed to the public, where as India's slumbs. Ive been to Couloun, Hong Kong, Bei Jing, and Tian Jin. I dont really you to correct me when i saw people try to enter the cities, and see them escorted out, when on sight. When they make it into the outskirts of the city, they get thrown out.

Kontakt Era

And im not saying china's army sucks, but its not the sharpest sword. THe weapons arent great, but arent tonka toys. China's army is catching up to the world in terms of weapons, and their soldiers are being propperly trained. The battalions are shortened for a more effective training and cooperation. It will take a while.

Kontakt Era

And lastly stop saying what i say is junk. Just cause im 14 doesnt mean my opinions arent valid. If u dont agree just say it, dont give a speech about ur self. Defending India is like defending rap music. Will it work? NO WAY! lol

Officer of Engineers

**** SIGH ****

Maj Warford went through extreme details showing you what we know of Chinese MBT developments. It is there to educate you. If you cannot judge for yourself when compared to the M1A2 or the Leo 2, then I am not about to get into that debate for you. There's another thread here that does just that.

World Affairs Board - M1A2 vs T-80U

Franco Lolan

"The laser blinder?

HEHEHEHEHEHEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

It doesn't work and the Chinese have long since stop putting it on their tanks."

1-Why didn't it work?
2-how do you know they stopped placing on tanks?
3-I meant active defense systems also as in the plates that fire off to intercept incoming ATGMs. (I'm not referring to reactive armor)