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Can anyone tell me if there was a war between russia and china, would india jump in?

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Are India and CHina trying to be friends now? I heard somewhere that they will propose an alliance, like formal alliance. I didnt think they just meant a neutrality treaty. IF they do become friends, wouldnt there be a conflict between Pakistan, China, India, and a competition for Russia's affection?

Franco Lolan

its 11:07 PM right here in S FL, and I have school tommorow, so I'll research a little later Tuesday or Wednesday after school, but I'm pretty sure r77's range is almost double that of amraam (dont laugh: in Novalogic's Mig-29 simulator game its like that I think, but I haven't played that for years so I'm not sure). I'll check out later. maybe its not sm172, ill have to find out what it is (pretty sure is "xy"172). its a long range missile designed to kill awacs.

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I don,t agree with u point of view!From the angle of historians,there is no competition between two eu warlords and great chinese empire.Yes,we must admit that china has lost it,s dignity and glorious past 100 year ago,beacuse of invasion of 8 nation(england,france,german,japanese,american,rus sia,etc).Why they didn,t dare to invade china alone,i think the reason is too clear to explain for you.
I think some eu historians have been avoiding a historical problem.Why Huns
(king Antila )invade rome empire and german and whole russia .The fact is that
huns was defeated and kicked off by chinese army from their hometown,(mongolia)if they couldn,t escape from the blood pursue of chinese,they would probably extinguished by chinese army(please remember the name of that chinese general ,huo qu bin ，霍去病）.Chinese army didn,t stop persuing huns until they got Moscow and general huo qu bin who died of over-exausted by persuing huns.If he hadn,t finished the military task which emperor give him,he would have been executed when he come back to china.
There is another problem which russian don,t want to mention,and eu erudite people try to escape from discussion--mongolia invasion.In fact,mongolia
is some chinese peasants who left thier arable land and converted into nomadic
life.why eu try to avoid this problem,because they don,t want to admit that they once conquered by chinese.
If you don,t believe my point of view.you can see some pictures of
mongolia and chinese of northern part of china,and find out what facial difference
between them.yes,they have the same appearance.
Nazi and frence can,t conquer russia with most advanced weapon of that time,in contrast,mongolia(chinese) can destroy eastern eu ,muslim empire and russia only with bow and sword.
with simple bow and

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Do u think anyone would jump in if it was a major war between the two countries? Maybe India, Japan, and North Korea would want to take advantage of their vulnerable neihbors?

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i think india is unlikely to involve himself into the war ,even if he want to do it.Because it,s imposible for india ground forces to climb over the Himalayas mountain range to attack china.China just to strengthen the defence line both in
pakistan and tibet is ok.
I recommend you to read some history stuff.And read some thing about korea war.in fact,korea war is a war between american and china.chinese win the war with simple and poor weapon.korea is the closest ally of china.
I think japanese probably declare war on china when war break out between china and russia.

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I read the book by Max Hastings The Korean War. The Chinese lost more than they ever shoudl have. They lost more than 1 million soldiers. Thats pathetic. I understand that they have a billion people, but in my book thats just plain cheap. And if China keeps doing that today I honestly doubt it will get anywhere when its trying to go onto the offensive. The most they can do with that method of recruitment will be weak defense. Plus the weapons that they will make will again be "moving targets."

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I,m a chinese,Your knowledge about korea war is very superficial in fact.Chinese liberation army (equiped with simple soviet gun and self-made grenade)fight with american (equiped with nuclear bomb and most advanced weaponed).USA government don,t dare to issue the his real death toll before public.It,s a great humiliation in american history.In fact ,usa and international forces lost nearly 0.5
million,200,000 soldier disappeared during the war,south korean army who backed by usa lost nearly 1.5 million .most of them was killed by chinese liberation army.Yes as a chinese ,i admitted that we lost 1 million soldiers in the war,vice versa,i hope you to face fact to.
In vietnam war,warned by our great leader CHairman Mao(he warned that american can not across 17 degree line,and can not enter the capital of north vietnam,hoinei,),american still don,t dare to across 17 degree from the start to the end of the war.Why american can not do it,because they get a great lesson from chinese army.IN korea war,chinese army once killed 20,000 usa and 10,000
in one day,we only lost 5000 soldiers.

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First of all, work on your poor horrific English. Second of all, the Americans did'nt invade the 17th parrarllel line due to guerllia warfare. Not in the city, but in the congos. It was'nt because the Chinese army gave us a wooping, which never happened even in the Korean War. The only thing you idiots did was shoot thousands of peasants towards out soldiers. Again and again the Chinese died, sending wave after wave, which retreated continously. Third and foremost, the Korean War was fought to compete with the Soviet Union, because as you know it was the Cold War. And you said we dropped nuclear bombs on you, which we did no such thing, but we definetly should have. Lol just kidding. Just to let you know us Americans only lost 58 thousand soldiers in the war, compared to the Vietnamese (bless their dead dumb hearts), who lost over 3 million soldiers. And the Mao idiot, wasnt not a great leader, he was a stupid dictator, who should have been slain at first sight.

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Yas,my english is very poor ,since it,s my second language and i rarely use it in china.You should not say some dirty words in this decent FROUM .From your writing style i can read out that you are an american without receiving higher education,just like me.I just want to exchange my point of view with you,i don, intend to hurt anybody.
We should respect each other.i wonder your american don,t know how to respect each other?You can abuse me,but you can not abuse our great leader,chairman MAO.I seriously warn you that if you abuse CHAIRMAN MAO again i will cut your heard off without one glimpse.
I think american is very friendly before i meet you.If you and your countryman want to fight with chinese, my countryman and i welcome you come to china,and i hope you american welcome chinese come to america.

Officer of Engineers

1st off, both of you have your figures way off. The Chinese never claimed to have lost a million men. Their figures are around 300,000. The Pentagon in the 90s have revised the People's Volunteer's Army casualties downward to 5-600,000. The truth is probably somewhere in between.

American/UN casualty lists can be taken at face value. We're anal that way about book-keeping.

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lurker

1st: Any comparison of modern China and Mongols I think sould be disregarded because connection between them is the same as between Ancient Egypt and modern Egypt ... i.e. none.
It's different civilisations.

2nd:
PLA lacks any experience in planning and executing of any massive military operations (as it should be if you planning to go to Russia).
It also lacks the experience of planning and executing any long military operations from the economical standpoint.

And list goes on and on.

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I absolutely agree with you.China never experienced massive military operation after war with vietnam on border area between 1979-1984.

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I heard from chinese media that chinese army lost o.38million men.And We must admitted that american got the air domination which caused great death tool in chinese volunteer,s army.It,s a bad dream for chinese soldiers who became some moving targets without protection from it,s weak air forces.

Blademaster

I disagree. The PLA has shown themselves and the world that they can plan a massive operation. The Korea War, 1962 Sino-Indo War, and the Vietnam War has proved that.

But what they lack is the planning at the company and battalion stages. Anything above that, they have proved to be adept at it. They are good in executing strategic goals. Don't underestimate that.