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Old 08-22-2006, 18:52 PM   #31 (permalink)
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'where are you coming up with this stuff??'

both read it and heard on tv, check items dating back to 9-11 and around and you will find it.........GWB was seriously considering the nuclear option and had to be talked out of it.

I wonder what would have been the US response if the 'liquid bomb' plans from UK flights would have been successful. It is also said that for another attack on 9-11 scale, US will take out both Mecca and Medina and leave the fanatics wishing they had listened to the cooler heads.

Sometimes I believe that 'subconciously' the Mullah Fanatic types have a wish to punish their own people and thus they commit acts that indirectly lead to their hidden desires. When they are not fighting with others they are fighting among themselves and that too with medivial brutality....look at Iraq these days. their mindsets have to be figured out and this might save billion$ in explosive weapons unleashed on the idiotheads.

what BS is this!!!Saudi arbaia has the oil and if we attack them we lose it!!! Sure if we do that not only will we lsoe oil we will get nuked with a nuclear suitcase bombd (russian nukes are far from secure).not to mention an onslaught of terror attacks and violence. Is this US mil doctrine ???Most likely behind your fantasy cloak.been hittin the crack pipe 'gen haven cha????
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Old 08-22-2006, 19:53 PM   #32 (permalink)
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what BS is this!!!Saudi arbaia has the oil and if we attack them we lose it!!! Sure if we do that not only will we lsoe oil we will get nuked with a nuclear suitcase bombd (russian nukes are far from secure).not to mention an onslaught of terror attacks and violence. Is this US mil doctrine ???Most likely behind your fantasy cloak.been hittin the crack pipe 'gen haven cha????
After nuking Mecca and Medina, no one would dare suitcare nuke us... unless they wanted some dead Muslims. Dude. It would be open season on Damascus, Islamabad, Tehran...

But, yes, his suggestion is illogical. After doing that, the only way the world markets continue to get oil is if we threaten to nuke them off the Earth for their oil. Too much could go wrong. Nuclear Russia might back the Middle East.
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After nuking Mecca and Medina, no one would dare suitcare nuke us... unless they wanted some dead Muslims. Dude. It would be open season on Damascus, Islamabad, Tehran...

But, yes, his suggestion is illogical. After doing that, the only way the world markets continue to get oil is if we threaten to nuke them off the Earth for their oil. Too much could go wrong. Nuclear Russia might back the Middle East.
I think al qaeda will go to any lengths to kill us. they'll even commit suicide so i'm not so sure.I seriosuly wonder how the hell the came up with his imaginary doctrine.
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Old 08-22-2006, 20:16 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I think al qaeda will go to any lengths to kill us. they'll even commit suicide so i'm not so sure.I seriosuly wonder how the hell the came up with his imaginary doctrine.
Yeah, man. I'd still like to hear his side of things, but the
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Old 08-22-2006, 21:19 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I always wondered why, after 9/11, we didn't just fire bomb some Muslim cities. That would have sent them a VERY clear message. Most people I've shared this view with have considered me pyschotic.
I can see why they'd consider you psychotic.

"fire bomb some Muslim cities"?

Like which ones for example? How would you decide? Just pull out a map, close your eyes and point?

Give me a break.
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Old 08-22-2006, 21:30 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I can see why they'd consider you psychotic.

"fire bomb some Muslim cities"?

Like which ones for example? How would you decide? Just pull out a map, close your eyes and point?

Give me a break.
How else do you stop terrorist attacks? Moral issues aside, states are, by definition, selfish. You do what you must for your constituents. Which Muslim city is the most anti-U.S.? Which breeds the most terrorists? I don't think defending onesself is pyschotic at all. Considering that we're at war with ideas, religion, and people, how do we fight back? What comes to my mind is killing their base of support.
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'What comes to my mind is killing their base of support.'

make it illegal for any person from islamic nations to step a foot on US or UK and other nations that opt for this doctrine. they want to breed and balloon up the fanatics, they will pay in terms of economic progress and standards of living.
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make it illegal for any person from islamic nations to step a foot on US or UK and other nations that opt for this doctrine.
I'll be the first to fight against a move like that.
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Old 08-23-2006, 00:10 AM   #39 (permalink)
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I can see why they'd consider you psychotic.

"fire bomb some Muslim cities"?

Like which ones for example? How would you decide? Just pull out a map, close your eyes and point?

Give me a break.
You could always firebomb all of them.

We've done it before you know. Many, many times.
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Let's say Pakistan nukes Israel as a farewell gift...Who does Israel nuke? If I am Israel and know "hell on earh" is gonna approach in my neck of the woods pretty soon, KSA, Iran, Syria, etc...go bye-bye.

I don't think a middle east would be left.
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Let's say Pakistan nukes Israel as a farewell gift...Who does Israel nuke? If I am Israel and know "hell on earh" is gonna approach in my neck of the woods pretty soon, KSA, Iran, Syria, etc...go bye-bye.

I don't think a middle east would be left.
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"If one flies, they all fly."
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How else do you stop terrorist attacks? Moral issues aside, states are, by definition, selfish. You do what you must for your constituents. Which Muslim city is the most anti-U.S.? Which breeds the most terrorists? I don't think defending onesself is pyschotic at all. Considering that we're at war with ideas, religion, and people, how do we fight back? What comes to my mind is killing their base of support.
You're insane. That would cause more terrorist attacks to happen and let me remind you Russian nukes are far from secure including Nuclear suitcase bombs.
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You're insane. That would cause more terrorist attacks to happen and let me remind you Russian nukes are far from secure including Nuclear suitcase bombs.
No sane person would ever advocate mass genocide. Doesn't change the fact that it's a highly effective strategy though.

Just ask the Trojans, Carthaginians, and the Native Americans how effective it is.

If you can find one to ask that is...
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...including Nuclear suitcase bombs.
That's more urban myth than actual threat...
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That's more urban myth than actual threat...
I don't think so!!

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...ssia/suitcase/
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,76990,00.html


since todays warheads are already small i don't see why a smaller version that could fit in a suitcase is impossible.

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