Machine Guns, General - Page 2

Anon · 08-09-2006, 15:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dalem

I know the M2 .50cal has penetration far in excess of rifle caliber MGs, but is its suppression value less because of its slower ROF, or is that irrelevant?

-dale

The M-2 suffers from a relatively low ROF, but it does have tremendous penetration, making above ground cover tenuous at best for enemy personnel.

The M-2 is a pretty good suppression weapon, but a M134 or Vulcan has no equal.

leib10 · 08-09-2006, 16:11 PM

Problem with Vulcan weapons is that they have to have an external power source to operate.

Anon · 08-09-2006, 16:30 PM

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Originally Posted by leibstandarte10

Problem with Vulcan weapons is that they have to have an external power source to operate.

That's what god invented the armored personnel carrier for. Let's face it, the VAST majority of heavy MG's are vehicle mounted.

leib10 · 08-09-2006, 19:35 PM

Which generally precludes them from being used by infantry except, as you said, while they're mounted in vehicles or mounted in a static position. Unless they want to carry around batteries for the gun as well as a ridiculous amount of ammunition and the gun itself.

lemontree · 08-10-2006, 00:10 AM

The funny thing about Russian and US made gattling MGs like the M134 and Vulcan is that the US gattlings are electical operated while the russians ones are gas operated. Why the difference in operating systems?

Anon · 08-10-2006, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by lemontree

The funny thing about Russian and US made gattling MGs like the M134 and Vulcan is that the US gattlings are electical operated while the russians ones are gas operated. Why the difference in operating systems?

US rotary cannons and mini-guns can also operate hydraulically. Gas op is nice in that it can operate without external power, but it also leads to a lot more weapon heating, fouling, and i would imagine, also restricts the absolute ROF as well. Gas op is probably heavier too.

lemontree · 08-10-2006, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by M21Sniper

US rotary cannons and mini-guns can also operate hydraulically. Gas op is nice in that it can operate without external power, but it also leads to a lot more weapon heating, fouling, and i would imagine, also restricts the absolute ROF as well. Gas op is probably heavier too.

Bill,
The comparison chart can be found in this Link, and the gas operated MGs < 12.7mm appear to be lighter than electrically operated ones.

Anon · 08-10-2006, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by lemontree

Bill,
The comparison chart can be found in this Link, and the gas operated MGs < 12.7mm appear to be lighter than electrically operated ones.

Yep, some of them appear lighter, though the US 7.62mm weapon is lighter than the Russian gas pwd version.

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leib10 HKHolic *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 02-17-05 Location: Lubbock, TX Posts: 3,256 Country:	Which generally precludes them from being used by infantry except, as you said, while they're mounted in vehicles or mounted in a static position. Unless they want to carry around batteries for the gun as well as a ridiculous amount of ammunition and the gun itself.

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