Russia + China invasion of Canada - Page 3

Wraith601 · 05-24-2006, 12:44 PM

The Enterprise-D had phasers with a 300k km range, yet they were never usd at anything near that range. Plus they had pisspoor accuracy. Star Trek space combat is fun to watch, but is completely unrealistic. In fact the only realistic combat I've ever seen is some stuff on Babylon 5 and parts of the Wing Commander movie.

And in case you're wondering I'm not single.

urmomma158 · 05-24-2006, 17:02 PM

Can we please get to the topic at hand.

Wraith601 · 05-24-2006, 17:28 PM

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Originally Posted by urmomma158

Can we please get to the topic at hand.

We've already established that this topic is complete rubbish so were disussing something else.

gunnut · 05-24-2006, 18:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Wraith601

We've already established that this topic is complete rubbish so were disussing something else.

Yeah, the colonel pretty much put the smack down on a far fetched topic born out of an overactive imagination without ever looking at the map with a scale next to it.

We're now talking about something that's more feasible than launching an overland invasion of Canada over the North Pole.

Canmoore · 05-25-2006, 23:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandman

Ok, I have a question then. Is there ANY avenue of invasion to the north american continent? Is Alaska just as impossible? My guess is from the south. The north just seems to inhospitable.

Id have to say Labrador. The liberals took out the Air base at Goose Bay, which had planes patrol the area. The coast is seriously underpopulated. The terrain is really hilly and rocky, but not as bad as the far north.

Another area, may be Hudson/James bay. Although the bay is quite shallow and unsuitable for deep hulled ship in some areas. However, if a force landed on the souther shores of James bay they are only a few hours away from the northern tributaries of the Ottawa River. And just as it was in 1812, that river is possibly the most strategically important river in canada. It can take you all the way from Northern Ontario, into Ottawa, then into Montreal to the ST.Lawrence, which if you follow the Sea way, can take you right into the heart of the continent.

But again, it would take one hell of an invasion force, and knocking out NORAD is critical to any attack on North.

'Stealth' cruise missiles? What, did the Russians and Chinese steal some AGM-129s? Damn the Americans and their lax base security!

who knows what those crazy commies are coming up with...hell it was because of them, that there is a skeleton of a dog floating in space somewhere....

Nemesis · 05-25-2006, 23:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Canmoore

Here is another doomsday scenario..

Canada has alot of resources that China needs, so say that China and Russia team up to attack Canada via the arctic, to take the Northern Terrirories from Canada.

Everyone knows that Canada doesnt have a very good northern defence. THe land is just to inhospitable for daily patrols, and some areas are incredibily difficult to navigate, if not impossible.

Of course NORAD would pick up any planes or missles, but the north lacks any system to detect subs. What if a bunch of subs launched stealth cruise missles at NORAD radar stations, effectivly blinding NORADS eyes and ears of the north. Then a large armatta of transport ships cross the arctic circle, and following the North West passage in say summer, then land on the northern coast of continental North America.

It would not be untill the Inuit Rangers contact the military and let them know of an invading force that Canada and NATO become aware that she is under attack...

What do you all think would happen next?

What resources? Oil? The oil that they have is too expensive to be extracted to even be worth drilling for.

Canmoore · 05-25-2006, 23:40 PM

not just oil...but fresh water. more fresh water (excluding the glaciers) than any other country in the world. Not to mention precious metals (ie. Gold, diamonds, silver, nickle, uranium....)

Nemesis · 05-25-2006, 23:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Canmoore

not just oil...but fresh water. more fresh water (excluding the glaciers) than any other country in the world. Not to mention precious metals (ie. Gold, diamonds, silver, nickle, uranium....)

I don't think that fresh water is really something that the Chinese are hurting for right now, and I don't think that China is so poor that they'd risk massive retaliation by the Western powers for access to gold, diamonds, silver, nickle or uranium. Is uranium even naturally occuring? I thought it was a synthetic element?

Canmoore · 05-25-2006, 23:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Nemesis

I don't think that fresh water is really something that the Chinese are hurting for right now, and I don't think that China is so poor that they'd risk massive retaliation by the Western powers for access to gold, diamonds, silver, nickle or uranium. Is uranium even naturally occuring? I thought it was a synthetic element?

then why is China trying to purchase entire natural resource companies accross the world? china needs sources of natural resources to continue the growth of there economy.

Uranium is a naturally occuring mineral. I think you are thinking of Plutonium, which is not a natural substance.

Nemesis · 05-25-2006, 23:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Canmoore

then why is China trying to purchase entire natural resource companies accross the world? china needs sources of natural resources to continue the growth of there economy.

Well, what kinds of natural resources? As far as water goes, well, they're in the middle of damming up the Yangtze, which is pretty much going to create an unimaginably large flood plane of fresh water.

I think China is just buying up natural resource companies like they do companies of every other industry. They are trying to expand the economy.

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Originally Posted by Canmoore

Uranium is a naturally occuring mineral. I think you are thinking of Plutonium, which is not a natural substance.

Ah. That makes sense.

**Officer of Engineers** · 07-21-2006, 10:42 AM

Ok, how about Star Wars versus Battlestar Galactica?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxX0DKE3oqw&NR

Dreadnought · 07-21-2006, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TopHatter

All of those reasons and more.

Somebody would have to be really stupid to attack Canada.

Yeah, They would be asking for the ass kicking of biblical proportions. Between Canada their forces and their armed population as well as Americas forces and well over armed population we would call it the "Great Alaskin Coomie shoot" and whats left the polar bears can have..hey everybody needs to eat even if its just a red herring with a side of sushi.

Wraith601 · 07-21-2006, 13:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

Ok, how about Star Wars versus Battlestar Galactica?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxX0DKE3oqw&NR

As much as I love the new Battlestar Galactica (in my opinion it's one of the best shows on TV right now) they would absolutely owned by the Empire.

**Officer of Engineers** · 07-21-2006, 15:12 PM

You know, the Colonials actually knows how and where to use a nuke.

Wraith601 · 07-21-2006, 15:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

You know, the Colonials actually knows how and where to use a nuke.

If the stats are to be believed though, a Colonial nuke won't even faze the shields on a Star Destroyer. Galactica space combat is far more realistic than anything on Star Wars or Star Trek though.

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