Anon

I don't see why not.

rickusn

Bet you didnt look either.

tankervet

No sir they changed that, now any swinging dick can go. Even me believe it or not. We have 3 usass trained snipers in my troop. They just cant get the asi as of yet because ataars does not allow it.

Anon

Damn, i'll be a monkee's uncle. That was 11 series only when i was in.

DATs at USASS, i feel somehow dirty and cheapened...

Anon

Nope, just common sense.

LOL. Ask TV how many of their Brad CFVs have only 1 or no scouts. That should clear it up right quick.

tankervet

They should all have 2 assigned with the exceptions of like the BFIST and such. I think the command tracks may have only 1 assigned but I'm not positive on this one.

tankervet

rickusn:

Your in the ballpark with your numbers. Not sure how accurate your trying to be. It's hard to get exact numbers because of the non combat personel and such. Your on it with your combat numbers though.

rickusn

Well I would like to be closer than 5200 to 4800.

LOL

tankervet

Looking at your numbers again your right in there. I would say that maybe your numbers are right on. Prob between 4700 and 4800 instead of 5200. Support and Aviation squadrons both have HQ's. I'm not sure if that number is in the approx 700 and 742 or not. Like I said thats where it starts getting hard. Its imposiable to know how many people are assigned to the support jobs without being familiar with them, which I'm not. I know that they drive trucks, cook, keep my pay straight, etc.

Anon

Not to mention that numbers fluctuate as guys flow in and out of a unit on a regular basis.

rickusn

I already stated:

"That would make sense... "

But the M3 CFV assigned to
each of the 9 nine Cavalry Troop HQ and the M3 CFV's assigned to the AD Battery (8?)(10 according to the TOE) have no scouts attached according to the TOE..

That leaves 6 in each of 18 Scout Plts for 108 x 2=216.

Even if used as infantry that isnt many for a Brigade sized unit nor would 250.

But then its not supposed to be an infantry-centric combat unit.

OTOH armor is quite vulnerable w/o supporting infantry or so Im told.

And this unit has a lot of Armor.

Compare to the ne Heavy UA 56 Tanks and 85 M3 CFV.

But none of this will matter soon as the 3rd ACR is scheduled to begin transitioning to a Heavy UA this summer after it moves to Ft. Hood.

I think its short-sighted to disband this "unique" organization but as usual I have no say..

Maybe TV has more on this?

Anon

I think the whole idea of the UA's is just an expensive reinvention of the wheel that gains us- let's see- nothing at all.

tankervet

The 3ACR is good for its role. We have to remember that the Cav and the rest of the army does not fight the same by any means. I am talking about Cold war era I know but still. It's not fair to either the Cav or an Armor/Inf Bn to compare to two. They both have advantages/disadvantages obviously.
If I understand your comparison right, your saying hey the regiment has blank many more of blank so its better as a fighting unit than a UA. The regiment is organized as close to a UA of the past as any unit. We are a self sufficient task force if you will. But some think that the ACR is not needed on the modern battlefield.

As far as UA.

The good
It keeps from having pieces of units left over after task organizing. As with 3ID we had a BN of signal. Never would all this be used even when the whole division deployed. With a UA everything is organic so no need to task organize. And therefore no pieces of units left out. Makes sense on paper I guess.

The bad
With a UA units like 3ACR dont fit. It screws up the rotation if you will. If our target area requires say a force of 5 UA. The regiment is larger than that so when you throw it into the rotation it screws up everything.

All in all I liked the army better before, but as with everyone else on this board, no one who matters cares what I think.

tankervet

And armor can be vulnable without infantry support is used incorrectly. But just like snipe said, we have dismount scouts. Like I said above we fight different than any other unit in the Army. There is a reason 3/7 cav led the fight to baghdad but stayed on the outskirts of the city once we got there!

tankervet

snipe what happend to clank clank kill a tank? You got me feeling left out or something