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If it's peaceful and democratic, I could support that, but I've seen little sign of such progress.
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No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry |
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(Hostilities= purposefully targeting school children, blowing up night clubs, firing rockets and morters blindly into population centers, etc.) |
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The difference between Israeli and Palestinain aggression is that the Israeli tax payer and government support and commit the aggression, the Palestinian has no say as to what Hamas does.
I think if Israel was serious it'd stop the aggression and work side by side Palestinain forces and Palestinian people to root out Hamas and thier kind and to stop them attacking the cause of both sides. |
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Seeing as Hamas is now the government in parts of the Gaza Strip, and Fatah, which is the group that started the Oslo War (Second Intifadah), IS the party controlling the PA, the Palestinians indeed support the aggression (definitly if you apply the same standard to Palestinians as to Israelis). In fact, "aggression" seems to poll higher among Palestinians than among Israelis...not to mention the fact that it was the Palestinians who started the current conflict, making all Israeli actions retaliatory. You can't equate how a country retaliates against aggression with the opening act of war.
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I don't understand this, who are the Palestineans? Do they have a past before they started calling themselves that starting in 67? No, they are arabs from neighboring countries and ARE NOT NATIVES OF ISRAEL. There is 22 arab nations in Middle east (I think, I guessed) and they deserve another country? No they don't. I have a solution, how about they go to Jordan and rename it to Palestine, that will be their country. What how they done to deserve a country? Have their leaders actually attempted to disarm Hamas? No, have they given any concessions? No. The facts are that the arabs that call themselves "Palestineans" have broken treaties constantly and still do to this day, the leaders won't persecute the terrorists, the terrorists haven't stopped and our great and glorius leader (Bush) makes Israel give them a huge chunk of land to form a hostile terrorist state. It makes you wonder what the Muslims will do to get more land, will they say Mohammaed swam to the U.S. and rode on a horse to New York? It's just as plausible as saying he went to Israel and that is where he ascended to heaven. You guys probably don't get daily news from Israel-the good and bad. I would suggest going to http://www.israelnationalnews.com/
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My professional, personal and esteemed opinion is that there's no way in hell we should ever give them a state, and short of a full peace, which I don't see coming, bring up the curfews to 8PM, and continue with the other so called "atrocities"
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