Israel Strongest Player in MidEast - Page 4

s_qwert63 · 10-22-2003, 16:17 PM

well since israel is the 51st state of the USA, the yanks would probably airlift everything from baby dipers to F15's to israel.
did you know that during yum kippur war, the americans took their own F4's out of their service and supplied them to israel.

Praxus · 10-22-2003, 16:21 PM

Yah that tends to happen when allys of the Soviet Union attack Israel.

We need to supply anything to Israel, just make sure a good supply of oil gets to Israel from Iraq.

Anon · 10-22-2003, 16:22 PM

You have a problem with us helping an ally in a time of war?

The Russkies supplied everything to the N. Koreans and N. Vietnamese.

You don't hear us whining about it do you?

s_qwert63 · 10-22-2003, 16:25 PM

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Originally posted by M21Sniper
You have a problem with us helping an ally in a time of war?

The Russkies supplied everything to the N. Koreans and N. Vietnamese.

You don't hear us whining about it do you?

where did i say i had a problem? was i whining, ****?
the soviet union airlifted supplies to egypt as well.
and we supplied the n koreans and the n vietnamese, but you went beyond that, you directly intervened!

bigross86 · 10-22-2003, 16:57 PM

How did the US intervene? And the amount of Russian "advisors" in Vietnam was quite large...

Anon · 10-22-2003, 19:32 PM

So sending three wings of Mig-15's with russian pilots to N. Korea wasn't 'directly intervening'?

The only reason the Reds didn't more directly intervene was because they would have gotten nuked into the stone age, then we wouldn't have nit wits like you to listen to today.

What a loss that would be... :brick

Anon · 10-22-2003, 19:33 PM

"well since israel is the 51st state of the USA, the yanks would probably airlift everything from baby dipers to F15's to israel."

Sounds like whining to me... :w00t

**ZFBoxcar** · 10-22-2003, 19:36 PM

Besides, werent there Russian pilots fighting for the Egyptians?

s_qwert63 · 10-22-2003, 20:03 PM

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Originally posted by bigross86
How did the US intervene? And the amount of Russian "advisors" in Vietnam was quite large...

so were the soviet advisors ever fighting?

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The only reason the Reds didn't more directly intervene was because they would have gotten nuked into the stone age, then we wouldn't have nit wits like you to listen to today.

nuked into the stone age?
you think truman would be that ****ing dumb?
jesus...
the USSR also had nukes at that time, and the 500 or so that the US had would not be enough to shatter the USSR a great deal, since they were only a powerfull as the ones dropped on hiroshima, and the number of B29's that would penetrate soviet airspace would be very small...

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Besides, werent there Russian pilots fighting for the Egyptians?

no...
sadat expelled all soviet advisers in 1972.

s_qwert63 · 10-22-2003, 20:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by M21Sniper
"well since israel is the 51st state of the USA, the yanks would probably airlift everything from baby dipers to F15's to israel."

Sounds like whining to me... :w00t

well to me it doesnt.

Praxus · 10-22-2003, 20:11 PM

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nuked into the stone age?
you think truman would be that ****ing dumb?
jesus...
the USSR also had nukes at that time, and the 500 or so that the US had would not be enough to shatter the USSR a great deal, since they were only a powerfull as the ones dropped on hiroshima, and the number of B29's that would penetrate soviet airspace would be very small...

Russia would not go to war over China.

By the 1950's we had Hydrogen Bombs. They were in the 100-500 kiloton class.

500 Nuclear Weapons could turn the Soviet Union into a glowing pile of Ruble.

Leader · 10-22-2003, 20:11 PM

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Originally posted by s_qwert63
so were the soviet advisors ever fighting?

Yes.

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nuked into the stone age?
you think truman would be that ****ing dumb?
jesus...
the USSR also had nukes at that time, and the 500 or so that the US had would not be enough to shatter the USSR a great deal, since they were only a powerfull as the ones dropped on hiroshima, and the number of B29's that would penetrate soviet airspace would be very small...

No 500 nukes would have made no difference at all. :roll

s_qwert63 · 10-22-2003, 20:20 PM

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Originally posted by Praxus
Russia would not go to war over China.

By the 1950's we had Hydrogen Bombs. They were in the 100-500 kiloton class.

500 Nuclear Weapons could turn the Soviet Union into a glowing pile of Ruble.

ever heard of Saharov?
we had the H bomb before you...
and lemay's primary targets were in china and north korea and only the east of the USSR.
not the west, there is no way your bombers could have penetrated that deep into our territory.

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Yes.

evidence? arguments?

**ZFBoxcar** · 10-22-2003, 21:01 PM

http://www.codeonemagazine.com/archi.../jul2a_98.html

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IAF pilots also faced Russian pilots who occasionally participated in the defense of Egyptian air space. Encounters between Russian and Israeli pilots reached a climax on 30 July 1970 when four Mirage IICs were sent to attack a radar base in the Nile Delta to draw the Russian pilots into the battle. At the same time, another four Mirages and four F-4s were lying in ambush at a very low altitude. The Russians sent two formations of four MiG-21s to shoot down the Mirages. A short time later, another dozen MiGs took off. In the ensuing air battle, five Russian-piloted planes were shot down.

If you dont like that source i can find others, but im a bit busy right now.

Anon · 10-22-2003, 21:02 PM

"nuked into the stone age?
you think truman would be that ****ing dumb?
jesus...
the USSR also had nukes at that time, and the 500 or so that the US had would not be enough to shatter the USSR a great deal, since they were only a powerfull as the ones dropped on hiroshima, and the number of B29's that would penetrate soviet airspace would be very small..."

How exactly was the Soviet Union going to deliver any nukes onto US soil in 1950?

The Mk1 wishful thinking missile?

Oh, but that's right, the US had a fleet of 3 THOUSAND heavy bombers that could reach the Soviet Union from CONUS in 1950.

The Hydrogen bomb was invented in the United States. Sorry Skippy.(Russia didn't even detonate a fission device until late 1947).

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s_qwert63 *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 08-29-03 Location: everywhere Posts: 759 Country:	well since israel is the 51st state of the USA, the yanks would probably airlift everything from baby dipers to F15's to israel. did you know that during yum kippur war, the americans took their own F4's out of their service and supplied them to israel.

10-22-2003, 16:21 PM	#47 (permalink)
Praxus *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 08-26-03 Posts: 3,237	Yah that tends to happen when allys of the Soviet Union attack Israel. We need to supply anything to Israel, just make sure a good supply of oil gets to Israel from Iraq.

10-22-2003, 16:22 PM	#48 (permalink)
Anon New Member Join Date: 08-03-03 Posts: 0	You have a problem with us helping an ally in a time of war? The Russkies supplied everything to the N. Koreans and N. Vietnamese. You don't hear us whining about it do you?

10-22-2003, 19:32 PM	#51 (permalink)
Anon New Member Join Date: 08-03-03 Posts: 0	So sending three wings of Mig-15's with russian pilots to N. Korea wasn't 'directly intervening'? The only reason the Reds didn't more directly intervene was because they would have gotten nuked into the stone age, then we wouldn't have nit wits like you to listen to today. What a loss that would be... :brick

10-22-2003, 19:33 PM	#52 (permalink)
Anon New Member Join Date: 08-03-03 Posts: 0	"well since israel is the 51st state of the USA, the yanks would probably airlift everything from baby dipers to F15's to israel." Sounds like whining to me... :w00t

10-22-2003, 19:36 PM	#53 (permalink)
ZFBoxcar Moderator Join Date: 08-03-03 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 2,125 Country:	Besides, werent there Russian pilots fighting for the Egyptians?

10-22-2003, 21:02 PM	#60 (permalink)
Anon New Member Join Date: 08-03-03 Posts: 0	"nuked into the stone age? you think truman would be that ****ing dumb? jesus... the USSR also had nukes at that time, and the 500 or so that the US had would not be enough to shatter the USSR a great deal, since they were only a powerfull as the ones dropped on hiroshima, and the number of B29's that would penetrate soviet airspace would be very small..." How exactly was the Soviet Union going to deliver any nukes onto US soil in 1950? The Mk1 wishful thinking missile? Oh, but that's right, the US had a fleet of 3 THOUSAND heavy bombers that could reach the Soviet Union from CONUS in 1950. The Hydrogen bomb was invented in the United States. Sorry Skippy.(Russia didn't even detonate a fission device until late 1947).

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