Israel Strongest Player in MidEast - Page 2

Praxus · 10-21-2003, 18:29 PM

That's a bad example, the French were stupid enough to believe Belgium was gonna protect their north eastern border with Germany. The French also did not use their tanks like the Germans. The French had them spread out, instead of consalidated were they could be the most powerful.

There is no such situation in Israel.

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I see you are not advanced in mathermatics.

I see you are not advanced in SPELLING. We are talking about Israel and Syria right:roll

Syria only outnumbers Israel in artillery and Israels artillery has a faster rate of fire, has a longer range, and is more acurate.

s_qwert63 · 10-21-2003, 18:33 PM

Well I would not consider my typo as a spelling error, but you do need to improve your spelling skills... consolidated not consalidated, where not were.
anyway, **** that.
We are talking about an Arab coalition against Israel.

Praxus · 10-21-2003, 18:36 PM

Since, when???

We already ruled out anyone else's involvment. This happened at the THIRD post.

s_qwert63 · 10-21-2003, 18:40 PM

You considering Bigrosses suggestion as valid?
Egypt will fight, unless Mubarak wants to meet the same fate as Sadat, the general populace are very anti-zionist.
Iran will be happy to airlift some forces to Syria.
Lebanon's Hezbollah will provoke the rest of the country to fight.
The Palestinians will surely fight. So will the Jordanians, since most of their population are Palestinians.

**Ironduke** · 10-21-2003, 18:50 PM

Egypt will fight, unless Mubarak wants to meet the same fate as Sadat, the general populace are very anti-zionist.
His fate would be decided after his disastrous defeat.

Iran will be happy to airlift some forces to Syria.
What kind of airlift capability does Iran have? Hardly none. What countries would they fly over? Iraq? Turkey? Saudi Arabia? Or would they fly around the Arabian peninsula, up the Red Sea, over the Suez Canal, and over to Syria?

Lebanon's Hezbollah will provoke the rest of the country to fight.
Maybe the Shi'ites. The Christians wouldn't.

s_qwert63 · 10-21-2003, 19:03 PM

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Originally posted by ironman420
His fate would be decided after his disastrous defeat.

lets not get skeptical please.

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What kind of airlift capability does Iran have? Hardly none. What countries would they fly over? Iraq? Turkey? Saudi Arabia? Or would they fly around the Arabian peninsula, up the Red Sea, over the Suez Canal, and over to Syria?

Iran has C 130 hercules aircraft, their Chieftain tanks could also be transported in those.
the second variant is possible.

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Maybe the Shi'ites. The Christians wouldn't.

the christians are only 30% of the population, and why wouldn't they?
i have a lebanese christian friend, who hates one people more than he hates muslims and that is jews.

**Ironduke** · 10-21-2003, 19:14 PM

No, I will get skeptical.

Iran has C 130 hercules aircraft, their Chieftain tanks could also be transported in those.
the second variant is possible.
How have those been working? We sold them to the Iranians over 20 years ago.

Their fleet of C-130's don't have the capability to airlift much.

the christians are only 30% of the population, and why wouldn't they?
i have a lebanese christian friend, who hates one people more than he hates muslims and that is jews.
They fought on the side of the Israelis during the Lebanese Civil War.

They are the economically dominant people in Lebanon.

I don't think they'd see it as their fight, anyways.

Praxus · 10-21-2003, 19:19 PM

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Iran has C 130 hercules aircraft, their Chieftain tanks could also be transported in those.
the second variant is possible.

Are you nuts?

Israel has the densist amount of SAMS in the world. The US has Patriot Batteries in Iraq and Kuwait. They aren't getting anywhere.

In order to move a sufficent force in less then an eon you would require a few hundred Herculees.

Chieftains are peices of **** that couldn't stand against a Merkava or M60A3.

Leader · 10-21-2003, 19:25 PM

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Originally posted by s_qwert63
i have a lebanese christian friend, who hates one people more than he hates muslims and that is jews.

That a bunch of BS. I know a Lebanese family, and they hate Muslims. And no wonder, the Syrians have been oppressing that country for years.

s_qwert63 · 10-21-2003, 20:35 PM

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Originally posted by Praxus
Chieftains are peices of **** that couldn't stand against a Merkava or M60A3.

pure speculation!

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Israel has the densist amount of SAMS in the world. The US has Patriot Batteries in Iraq and Kuwait. They aren't getting anywhere.

read carefully:
"Or would they fly around the Arabian peninsula, up the Red Sea, over the Suez Canal, and over to Syria?"

see attachment!

s_qwert63 · 10-21-2003, 20:38 PM

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Originally posted by ironman420
No, I will get skeptical.

Iran has C 130 hercules aircraft, their Chieftain tanks could also be transported in those.
the second variant is possible.
How have those been working? We sold them to the Iranians over 20 years ago.

Their fleet of C-130's don't have the capability to airlift much.

the christians are only 30% of the population, and why wouldn't they?
i have a lebanese christian friend, who hates one people more than he hates muslims and that is jews.
They fought on the side of the Israelis during the Lebanese Civil War.

They are the economically dominant people in Lebanon.

I don't think they'd see it as their fight, anyways.

the christians might not!
but the muslims will. they are nonetheless the majority!

**Ironduke** · 10-21-2003, 20:42 PM

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Originally posted by s_qwert63
pure speculation!

read carefully:
"Or would they fly around the Arabian peninsula, up the Red Sea, over the Suez Canal, and over to Syria?"

see attachment! [/b]

No, it's not speculation. The Iranians have no spare parts to repair them.
C130 specs:
Normal Passenger Seats Available: Up to 92 troops or 64 paratroops or 74 litter patients.

Range 2,356 miles (2,049 nautical miles) with maximum payload;
2,500 miles (2,174 nautical miles) with 25,000 pounds (11,250 kilograms) cargo;
5,200 miles (4,522 nautical miles) with no cargo.

That trip is about 3500 miles. If they could make it, (with 1 light tank or a few dozen troops per trip) there's the probable chance they'd get shot down.

s_qwert63 · 10-21-2003, 20:49 PM

By saying speculation I was talking about the Chieftain encountering the Merkava or the M60A3.

about their range:
well the C130's could fly over Saudi Arabia, in an event of war against Israel it is highly likely that they will permit a fly over their air space.
they do also have a refuelling capability.
they would most likely airlift troops in boeing 707's however, those do have the range to get to syria across the route you assigned.
i have to agree however that the state of the IIAF is quite poor.

**Ironduke** · 10-21-2003, 20:49 PM

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Originally posted by s_qwert63
By saying speculation I was talking about the Chieftain encountering the Merkava or the M60A3.

about their range:
well the C130's could fly over Saudi Arabia, in an event of war against Israel it is highly likely that they will permit a fly over their air space.
they do also have a refuelling capability.
they would most likely airlift troops in boeing 707's however, those do have the range to get to syria across the route you assigned.
i have to agree however that the state of the IIAF is quite poor.

Saudi Arabia and Iran are archenemies! :w00t

s_qwert63 · 10-21-2003, 20:51 PM

they are...
but in an event of war they will most likely rather side with the muslims rather than the jews, you have to agree.
anyway im off to sleep, cya 2moz, mazzle.

10-21-2003, 18:50 PM	#20 (permalink)
Ironduke Burgomaster Join Date: 08-02-03 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 6,800 Country:	Egypt will fight, unless Mubarak wants to meet the same fate as Sadat, the general populace are very anti-zionist. His fate would be decided after his disastrous defeat. Iran will be happy to airlift some forces to Syria. What kind of airlift capability does Iran have? Hardly none. What countries would they fly over? Iraq? Turkey? Saudi Arabia? Or would they fly around the Arabian peninsula, up the Red Sea, over the Suez Canal, and over to Syria? Lebanon's Hezbollah will provoke the rest of the country to fight. Maybe the Shi'ites. The Christians wouldn't. __________________ The Buck Stops Here

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10-21-2003, 18:33 PM	#17 (permalink)
s_qwert63 Contributor Join Date: 08-29-03 Location: everywhere Posts: 744 Country:	Well I would not consider my typo as a spelling error, but you do need to improve your spelling skills... consolidated not consalidated, where not were. anyway, **** that. We are talking about an Arab coalition against Israel.

10-21-2003, 18:36 PM	#18 (permalink)
Praxus *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 08-26-03 Posts: 3,237	Since, when??? We already ruled out anyone else's involvment. This happened at the THIRD post.

10-21-2003, 18:40 PM	#19 (permalink)
s_qwert63 Contributor Join Date: 08-29-03 Location: everywhere Posts: 744 Country:	You considering Bigrosses suggestion as valid? Egypt will fight, unless Mubarak wants to meet the same fate as Sadat, the general populace are very anti-zionist. Iran will be happy to airlift some forces to Syria. Lebanon's Hezbollah will provoke the rest of the country to fight. The Palestinians will surely fight. So will the Jordanians, since most of their population are Palestinians.

10-21-2003, 19:14 PM	#22 (permalink)
Ironduke Burgomaster Join Date: 08-02-03 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 6,800 Country:	No, I will get skeptical. Iran has C 130 hercules aircraft, their Chieftain tanks could also be transported in those. the second variant is possible. How have those been working? We sold them to the Iranians over 20 years ago. Their fleet of C-130's don't have the capability to airlift much. the christians are only 30% of the population, and why wouldn't they? i have a lebanese christian friend, who hates one people more than he hates muslims and that is jews. They fought on the side of the Israelis during the Lebanese Civil War. They are the economically dominant people in Lebanon. I don't think they'd see it as their fight, anyways.

10-21-2003, 20:49 PM	#28 (permalink)
s_qwert63 Contributor Join Date: 08-29-03 Location: everywhere Posts: 744 Country:	By saying speculation I was talking about the Chieftain encountering the Merkava or the M60A3. about their range: well the C130's could fly over Saudi Arabia, in an event of war against Israel it is highly likely that they will permit a fly over their air space. they do also have a refuelling capability. they would most likely airlift troops in boeing 707's however, those do have the range to get to syria across the route you assigned. i have to agree however that the state of the IIAF is quite poor.

10-21-2003, 20:51 PM	#30 (permalink)
s_qwert63 Contributor Join Date: 08-29-03 Location: everywhere Posts: 744 Country:	they are... but in an event of war they will most likely rather side with the muslims rather than the jews, you have to agree. anyway im off to sleep, cya 2moz, mazzle.

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