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Old 04-23-2008, 10:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hizbullah chases away UNIFIL monitors

Apr 22, 2008 17:58 | Updated Apr 22, 2008 18:53
Hizbullah chases away UNIFIL monitors


Hizbullah gunmen chased away UNIFIL inspectors in south Lebanon who identified a truck carrying arms belonging to the guerrilla group, a report published twice a year by UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon revealed Tuesday.

The incident was the first time UNIFIL troops confirmed the presence of Hizbullah gunmen south of the Litani River, in violation of UN Security Council Resolution 1701, Channel 1 reported.

The resolution, which enforced the ceasefire between Israel and Hizbullah after the Second Lebanon War, calls on the terror group to disarm and also forbids its members from operating south of the river in the southeastern part of Lebanon.

Israel has claimed on more than one occasion that Hizbullah was not abiding by their end of the deal.

The incident, on the night between March 30 and March 31, is cited in the report in reference to a different resolution - UNSC Resolution 1559, which calls on all Lebanese militias to disarm.

Sources in Jerusalem said the incident was a source of great embarrassment for UNIFIL. The troops trailed the truck and stopped it, but when the troops approached the truck, armed Hizbullah members jumped out and threatened to hurt them if they would not leave the area. The source said UNIFIL's men turned back and left the scene.

This serious disregard of UN resolutions is reason for much disconcert, the report claimed. The incident was not previously published and similar incidents were not recorded.


Hizbullah chases away UNIFIL monitors | Jerusalem Post
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My thoughts exactly, round 2 coming to your boob tube shortly.
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Are we seeing anymore combined arms training? Last I checked, the engineers are still not working with the tanks.
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Are we seeing anymore combined arms training? Last I checked, the engineers are still not working with the tanks.
From the few tankers that I've talked to, it seems that combined arms training is indeed receiving a lot of much needed attention. Obviously, that is a bit anecdotal. The IDF has been running more combined arms excercizes. I do wonder about how large a discrepancy there is between the combined arms training of regforce and reserves. Regforce seem to be refocusing on combined arms from what I've heard. Reserves, I'm frankly not sure.
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Does anybody know the nationality of UNFIL troops that were chased?
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Does anybody know the nationality of UNFIL troops that were chased?
They were of United nationality
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Sources in Jerusalem said the incident was a source of great embarrassment for UNIFIL. The troops trailed the truck and stopped it, but when the troops approached the truck, armed Hizbullah members jumped out and threatened to hurt them if they would not leave the area. The source said UNIFIL's men turned back and left the scene.
I was under the impression that this is what the job of the UN troops is: to leave the scene as soon as someone points a gun at them.
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I was under the impression that this is what the job of the UN troops is: to leave the scene as soon as someone points a gun at them.
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Well I happen to know a few soldiers who've worn the blue beret under rather trying circumstances who might possibly take umbrage at that statement. Perhaps you might want to rephrase that?
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Is that not what the UN soldiers are there to do, to keep the peace and a neutral presence, as soon as you have guns and bombs what is the need of neutral presence and what peace to keep.
They should not stick around and face up to the Hizbullah, not their job to do, so as soon as someone point a gun at them, they should leave the scene, if it happens too often, they should leave that place.
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Is that not what the UN soldiers are there to do, to keep the peace and a neutral presence, as soon as you have guns and bombs what is the need of neutral presence and what peace to keep.
That depends on the Commander on the ground and what he feels is necessary. There are UNPROFOR members on this board who have received fire and returned fire while in the process of enforcing the peace.

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They should not stick around and face up to the Hizbullah, not their job to do, so as soon as someone point a gun at them, they should leave the scene, if it happens too often, they should leave that place.
You mean like Rwanda? It was the very fact that LGen/Senator Dallaire who refused to abandon his mission that 30,000 Rwandans were saved from being butchered.
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The problem with UNIFIL is its underarmed.
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That depends on the Commander on the ground and what he feels is necessary. There are UNPROFOR members on this board who have received fire and returned fire while in the process of enforcing the peace.
With the state actors that are involved the UNIFIL commanders should ensure that they keep the peace, there is no way they can enforce it in this situation.
I would not be able to accept any justification for soldiers with UN dying in that place to keep the peace between Hizbulla and Israel, when there is no peace to keep.

Can you really do that with in the rules of engagement, with in the mandate? Force the peace in a situation between Hizbulla, labanon and Israel?
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You mean like Rwanda? It was the very fact that LGen/Senator Dallaire who refused to abandon his mission that 30,000 Rwandans were saved from being butchered.
No i mean like Lebanon and UNIFIL not UNAMIR.
which is in response to the article
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Sources in Jerusalem said the incident was a source of great embarrassment for UNIFIL. The troops trailed the truck and stopped it, but when the troops approached the truck, armed Hizbullah members jumped out and threatened to hurt them if they would not leave the area. The source said UNIFIL's men turned back and left the scene.
If these were Indian troops, this would be exactly what i would want them to do, leave the scene, and if it happens too often leave it for good.

If the mandate is for them to put their lives in harms way they should be well equipped and in good numbers to deal with the situation, and to really enforce peace.

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