Stan187

As Druze said, these were people who were not doing what they were supposed to.

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Officer of Engineers

That says it all right there. I'm sure you can think this one through.

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Druze

I'm not sure where the paratroopers were assigned to prior to the outbreak of hostilities however they particpated in the Southern command's operations during the war. Much of Golani's active forces were moved to the Golan two days prior to the outbreak of the war. They were later obsorbed by General Eitan's division for the most part during the counter offensive.
The Kfir brigade was the 900th then.

Stan187

I think the big problem is practice. I don't know how much the Israelis practice as far combined arms goes. In the Territories, the tanks act as mobile assault guns, supporting infantry. This is not the same thing as infantry and tanks working together to gain ground. There appears to have been only one regular tank brigade in Lebanon (Ben's brigade, the 401st). While taking nothing away from reservists tankers, their skills are probably a bit rusty... especially their ability to coordinate with infantry. I'm not sure how many combined arms field exercizes the IDF hosts, maybe Druze knows.

Druze

infantry works in tandem with armour and artillery during training. However Israel tends to still spearhead with armour during war which is something that shouldn't have happened. Not all divisions went in with armour directly. Many infantry battalions used their tanks and artillery very effectively. Other times tanks rolled in to far from their infantry support and suffered heavy damages. I think about 90% of casualties were tankers. Coming back across the border we were shocked at the high number of dead tanks being towed back across the border.
Reservist tankers are very well trained and operate very well but I imagine that they inevitably suffer less training in the long run in joint long distance operations. reservist tankers are called up every year to do their time in the West Bank and Gaza but the lack of recent wars to hone skills showed in Lebanon in regards to using infantry deep inside enemy territory. Tank columns are very effective in working jointly with the IAF however that didn't do them much good against Hezbollah. My cousin's tank company is the only one to have reached the Litani which I can't name.

Infantry certainly was the most effective corps of the Lebanon war as tanks simply took ground without doing much to the enemy.

Aranthus

I am curious where you got this order of battle from.

Stan187

My cousin being a reservist tanker, tells me that he guarded checkpoints in the Territories like a standard grunt for the past 2 years. Not as many tanks are needed, so not all the tank reservists actually get to go out on them.

Stan187

My head!

Just like if you ask OoE something about China. He follows the PLA, so he just knows.

Druze

That about sums it up for reservist duty. Other then arrest operations and limited operations there is not much for tanks to do. I was stationed at Rafah for 3 months and it was the worst assignment ever both in terms of feeling useless and feeling extremely vulnerable. I'm glad more soldiers won't lose their life needlessly in Gaza anymore. But I will miss the beach in the Gaza! Most beautiful beach in the area.

Stan187

Honestly, my favorite place in Israel is the Golan. I could keep hiking there for months and not get bored. But, as far as beaches go, Tel Aviv and Netanya are not too shabby either, IMO.