Suicide bombers shatter Israeli calm

**Ironduke** · 08-12-2003, 18:22 PM

Suicide bombers shatter Israeli calm

Palestinian suicide bombers have struck in Israel and the West Bank for the first time in over a month, killing two Israelis.
One blast ripped through a shopping centre in the Tel Aviv suburb of Rosh Haayin and a bomber blew himself up at a bus stop outside the Jewish settlement of Ariel.

Two Palestinian militant groups claimed they carried out the attacks in specific retaliation for a deadly Israeli raid last week.

But officials from one group, Hamas, stressed that they were still keeping to their ceasefire.

Israel has called for a "complete halt to terror" and suspended its release of Palestinian prisoners, but a senior Israeli official suggested the releases would resume.

Israel had been expected to free 76 detainees on Tuesday before the attacks.

Zalman Shoval, a senior foreign policy adviser to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, commented that "from the point of view of public opinion, today would not be a very suitable day to release Palestinian prisoners".

"But ultimately the Israeli Government is committed to releasing prisoners and I think it will continue to do that," he added.

Mr Sharon himself said there could be no progress on the US-backed roadmap to peace without a complete halt to attacks.

An Israeli military source quoted by AP news agency said there would be no large-scale retaliation for Tuesday's attacks.

The BBC's Simon Wilson in Jerusalem says the attacks are undoubtedly the severest threat yet to the period of relative calm since the main Palestinian militant groups announced a unilateral ceasefire in June.

Shopping mall

In Rosh Haayin, the suspect bomber detonated a charge he was carrying - possibly in a backpack or in a belt - after being challenged by a security guard at the entrance to a supermarket.

The blast left a mass of twisted blinds and shattered glass and sparked a large fire.

Firefighters with breathing equipment rushed to the scene to pull out the injured, some 10 people.

"I saw fire and a cloud of smoke," said witness Avigail Josef. "They brought out an injured child and then his mother."

The Palestinian militant group al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade - part of Yasser Arafat's Fatah faction - claimed responsibility for the attack, saying it was to avenge an Israeli raid on Friday.

Two Hamas militants and two Palestinian civilians died in that raid which also claimed the life of one Israeli soldier.

In the Ariel attack, the bomber detonated his device at a bus stop near several young Israelis. He killed one and wounded three.

Hamas's armed wing claimed responsibility for the attack on its website.

Israeli 'provocations'

Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas condemned both bombings but said they had been provoked by Israeli raids into Palestinian areas.

Militant groups, he added, were still committed to their truce with Israel.

A senior Palestinian legislator, Saeb Erekat, rejected Israeli suggestions that the Palestinian Authority could have acted to prevent the attacks.

Hamas's armed wing, al-Qassam Brigades, said in a statement that the Ariel attack was a response to the killing of its members in Nablus.

A senior Hamas leader, Abdel-Aziz al-Rantissi, said the killing of Palestinians would not be tolerated and he blamed Ariel Sharon for the new violence.

"For 40 days we have been committed to our imitative but Sharon has refused to accept that initiative and he has continued to kill," the Hamas official said.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3143783.stm

ChrisF202 · 08-12-2003, 18:30 PM

I knew this cease fire wouldent last long, hopefully its just a splinter group

**ZFBoxcar** · 08-12-2003, 22:22 PM

no such luck. Hamas claimed one and the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade claimed the other.

ChrisF202 · 08-12-2003, 22:27 PM

o well, why dont you uys just wipe them off the face of the earth, just bomb Arafats compound in Ramallah, dont ignore them, look at what happend to us when we slacked off.

**ZFBoxcar** · 08-12-2003, 23:04 PM

When the US does it, all you have to worry about are the frogs, krauts, and ex-commies whining at you. We gotta worry about the whole world putting embargos, boycotts, withdrawl of aid, and maybe even war. So while I commend the US for its actions, Israel cant do the same and hope to have a first world economy after its over.

Stinger · 08-13-2003, 08:42 AM

Its really to bad that most of the world doesn't recognize that some people just need killin'. Anyone who is unstable enough to strap a bunch of explosives and discharge them should be shot, after all everyone knows that explsions are best viewed a coupl hundred yards away.

ChrisF202 · 08-13-2003, 08:57 AM

Its because the froggies, jerries and commies have no concept of justice except constant talk and no action and soft sentences (the guy who killed that Dutch politician Pim Foyrtun or something got 15 years in jail) and are self-centered, The Germans dident even send troops to Afghanistan until we finished up the last major pockets of resistance, same in Kosovo, France dident even send troops. Im sorry to say this and insult anybody from France and Germany here but the Germans and French are world class sissies and cowards, i know i will be bashed or banned but thas reality.

Stinger · 08-13-2003, 09:16 AM

Yes Chris you should be whipped and burned for insulting all Germans now the german government , and majority you could be right on.... the French...No comment.

ChrisF202 · 08-13-2003, 09:31 AM

At least I was right about the French (as a whole) and German Govt. :p Im just curious but why are they so self-centered?

Stinger · 08-13-2003, 10:03 AM

Well if you had lost (or tied) as many wars as the French have would you want to get involved in one?

ChrisF202 · 08-13-2003, 10:06 AM

rofl :D, but if they were fighting alongside the US and Brits they really cant lose.

bigross86 · 08-13-2003, 13:11 PM

Yeah, but the US and British troops might get disoriented and start shooting at the frog eating people behind them, than at the actual slugs in front of them...

ChrisF202 · 08-13-2003, 13:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigross86

Yeah, but the US and British troops might get disoriented and start shooting at the frog eating people behind them, than at the actual slugs in front of them...

rofl

Clp

bigross86 · 08-13-2003, 13:27 PM

8) Thank you, thank you very much 8)

ChrisF202 · 08-13-2003, 13:30 PM

man, you and i are spamming this forum 8)

08-12-2003, 18:22 PM	#1 (permalink)
Ironduke Burgomaster Join Date: 08-02-03 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 6,784 Country:	Suicide bombers shatter Israeli calm Suicide bombers shatter Israeli calm Palestinian suicide bombers have struck in Israel and the West Bank for the first time in over a month, killing two Israelis. One blast ripped through a shopping centre in the Tel Aviv suburb of Rosh Haayin and a bomber blew himself up at a bus stop outside the Jewish settlement of Ariel. Two Palestinian militant groups claimed they carried out the attacks in specific retaliation for a deadly Israeli raid last week. But officials from one group, Hamas, stressed that they were still keeping to their ceasefire. Israel has called for a "complete halt to terror" and suspended its release of Palestinian prisoners, but a senior Israeli official suggested the releases would resume. Israel had been expected to free 76 detainees on Tuesday before the attacks. Zalman Shoval, a senior foreign policy adviser to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, commented that "from the point of view of public opinion, today would not be a very suitable day to release Palestinian prisoners". "But ultimately the Israeli Government is committed to releasing prisoners and I think it will continue to do that," he added. Mr Sharon himself said there could be no progress on the US-backed roadmap to peace without a complete halt to attacks. An Israeli military source quoted by AP news agency said there would be no large-scale retaliation for Tuesday's attacks. The BBC's Simon Wilson in Jerusalem says the attacks are undoubtedly the severest threat yet to the period of relative calm since the main Palestinian militant groups announced a unilateral ceasefire in June. Shopping mall In Rosh Haayin, the suspect bomber detonated a charge he was carrying - possibly in a backpack or in a belt - after being challenged by a security guard at the entrance to a supermarket. The blast left a mass of twisted blinds and shattered glass and sparked a large fire. Firefighters with breathing equipment rushed to the scene to pull out the injured, some 10 people. "I saw fire and a cloud of smoke," said witness Avigail Josef. "They brought out an injured child and then his mother." The Palestinian militant group al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade - part of Yasser Arafat's Fatah faction - claimed responsibility for the attack, saying it was to avenge an Israeli raid on Friday. Two Hamas militants and two Palestinian civilians died in that raid which also claimed the life of one Israeli soldier. In the Ariel attack, the bomber detonated his device at a bus stop near several young Israelis. He killed one and wounded three. Hamas's armed wing claimed responsibility for the attack on its website. Israeli 'provocations' Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas condemned both bombings but said they had been provoked by Israeli raids into Palestinian areas. Militant groups, he added, were still committed to their truce with Israel. A senior Palestinian legislator, Saeb Erekat, rejected Israeli suggestions that the Palestinian Authority could have acted to prevent the attacks. Hamas's armed wing, al-Qassam Brigades, said in a statement that the Ariel attack was a response to the killing of its members in Nablus. A senior Hamas leader, Abdel-Aziz al-Rantissi, said the killing of Palestinians would not be tolerated and he blamed Ariel Sharon for the new violence. "For 40 days we have been committed to our imitative but Sharon has refused to accept that initiative and he has continued to kill," the Hamas official said. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3143783.stm

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Stinger Contributor Join Date: 08-08-03 Posts: 714	Its really to bad that most of the world doesn't recognize that some people just need killin'. Anyone who is unstable enough to strap a bunch of explosives and discharge them should be shot, after all everyone knows that explsions are best viewed a coupl hundred yards away. __________________ Your look more lost than a bastard child on fathers day.

08-13-2003, 13:11 PM	#12 (permalink)
bigross86 401 Ikvot Habarzel *Military Professional* Join Date: 08-07-03 Location: Ra'anana, Israel Posts: 3,148	Yeah, but the US and British troops might get disoriented and start shooting at the frog eating people behind them, than at the actual slugs in front of them... __________________ You're a naughty girl, go to my room!

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08-12-2003, 18:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
ChrisF202 *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 08-12-03 Location: Long Island, New York, USA Posts: 2,545 Country:	I knew this cease fire wouldent last long, hopefully its just a splinter group

08-12-2003, 22:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
ZFBoxcar Moderator Join Date: 08-03-03 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 2,121 Country:	no such luck. Hamas claimed one and the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade claimed the other.

08-12-2003, 22:27 PM	#4 (permalink)
ChrisF202 *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 08-12-03 Location: Long Island, New York, USA Posts: 2,545 Country:	o well, why dont you uys just wipe them off the face of the earth, just bomb Arafats compound in Ramallah, dont ignore them, look at what happend to us when we slacked off.

08-12-2003, 23:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
ZFBoxcar Moderator Join Date: 08-03-03 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 2,121 Country:	When the US does it, all you have to worry about are the frogs, krauts, and ex-commies whining at you. We gotta worry about the whole world putting embargos, boycotts, withdrawl of aid, and maybe even war. So while I commend the US for its actions, Israel cant do the same and hope to have a first world economy after its over.

08-13-2003, 08:57 AM	#7 (permalink)
ChrisF202 *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 08-12-03 Location: Long Island, New York, USA Posts: 2,545 Country:	Its because the froggies, jerries and commies have no concept of justice except constant talk and no action and soft sentences (the guy who killed that Dutch politician Pim Foyrtun or something got 15 years in jail) and are self-centered, The Germans dident even send troops to Afghanistan until we finished up the last major pockets of resistance, same in Kosovo, France dident even send troops. Im sorry to say this and insult anybody from France and Germany here but the Germans and French are world class sissies and cowards, i know i will be bashed or banned but thas reality.

08-13-2003, 09:16 AM	#8 (permalink)
Stinger Contributor Join Date: 08-08-03 Posts: 714	Yes Chris you should be whipped and burned for insulting all Germans now the german government , and majority you could be right on.... the French...No comment.

08-13-2003, 09:31 AM	#9 (permalink)
ChrisF202 *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 08-12-03 Location: Long Island, New York, USA Posts: 2,545 Country:	At least I was right about the French (as a whole) and German Govt. :p Im just curious but why are they so self-centered?

08-13-2003, 10:03 AM	#10 (permalink)
Stinger Contributor Join Date: 08-08-03 Posts: 714	Well if you had lost (or tied) as many wars as the French have would you want to get involved in one?

08-13-2003, 10:06 AM	#11 (permalink)
ChrisF202 *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 08-12-03 Location: Long Island, New York, USA Posts: 2,545 Country:	rofl :D, but if they were fighting alongside the US and Brits they really cant lose.

08-13-2003, 13:27 PM	#14 (permalink)
bigross86 401 Ikvot Habarzel *Military Professional* Join Date: 08-07-03 Location: Ra'anana, Israel Posts: 3,148	8) Thank you, thank you very much 8)

08-13-2003, 13:30 PM	#15 (permalink)
ChrisF202 *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 08-12-03 Location: Long Island, New York, USA Posts: 2,545 Country:	man, you and i are spamming this forum 8)

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