leib10

I think my sarcasm meter just broke...

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Confed999

No, that would be to exterminate them. All breaking requires is enough damage to stop them from fighting effectively.
I don't see where they're trying too.
If they didn't want them in there, they would have given back the kidnapped soldiers.
Well it's good that they are weaker now then...

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Confed999

Yes, it looks like that's exactly what is happening in both Palestine and Lebanon.
Me too.

Confed999

No sarcasm, but I'm truly doubtful I fully meant it in the same way she did.

dalem

Yrch!

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Sea Toby

It appears to me Israel is using different tactics this time, having learned lessons from the past. So far during the current conflict Israel is conducting a seige campaign, cutting off the airport, roads, and the sea from resupplying Lebanon and hitting hard at its enemy where ever it can. Eventually the Lebanese will starve. The same seige appears to be happening in the Gaza Strip.

Of course, this seige campaign will take time to fulfill. All Israel has to do is keep hitting the bridges and the airport and maintain the sea embargo for as long as it takes. When the food runs out, we'll see who wins.

As General MacArthur said during the Papuan campaign during World War II, starvation is my ally.

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Tronic

maybe they should create more of them... after all, its much better to see thugs control thugs.. rather then seeing good guys go down....

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AchtungSpitFire

What may suck is the fact that a great conflict develops just because of some crazy religious zionists who believe God gave them that piece of land and take disproportionate warfare to a genocidal level to protect it.

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Sea Toby

Israel has no choice using disproportionate means. If it swapped personnel one for one, they would be overwhelmed by the huge mass of Arabs. The United Nations has given Israel its stamp of approval. Israel exists.

Considering the number of wars and the huge amounts of money spent that the Arabs/Palestinians have lost over Israel, you would think they would move on. How do you expect Israel to discuss or negotiate when the other party doesn't recognize it as a sovereign nation?

Oh, by the way, the last time Israel released detainees their hostages came back dead. What a wonderful way to influence the moderates in Israel. Why o why did Hamas expect Israel to swap again?

Why so much blood over a very small piece of land, some 20 or so miles by 100 or so miles?

Enough about Israel. Let us move on to the bigger worldwide problem, something the Muslims want to hide from the rest of us. For such a proclaimed peaceful religion, why are there civil strifes in the Muslim world from Liberia to Indonesia, which have absolutely nothing to do with Israel. Terrrorist bombings in the United States, France, Italy, little bitty Denmark, Egypt, Kenya, Nigeria, Liberia, Sudan, Iraq, Pakistan, India, and Indonesia? The actual list is as long as there are Muslim nations, frankly. Are the Muslims that peaceful?

The entire United Nations are spending almost 99 percent of their efforts to contain civil strife in Muslim nations. Its a fact. Ask the rest of the world.

Confed999

That is flat out BS. At no point has Israel done anything even remotely genocidal. They are not carpet bombing, or randomly firing artillery, or directly targeting civilians. They are not the ones talking about driving anyone into the sea, or killing everyone of a specific religion. You have zero idea what you're talking about.

Bluesman

Nice put-away shot, buddy.

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platinum786

Now this all rests on who has bigger balls.

Israel wants to bomb Hizbollah into giving them thier guys back, Hizbollah want to theraten Israel with fullscale war by bombing thier cities, either way i don't see Israel gaining anything. They jumped the gun this time.

Think about it like this, Israel is responsible for a state, Hizbolah is responsible for...umm....hizbollah. Now Israel continues to bomb, Hizbollah continues to fire rockets, etiher side gain anything, te blockade might actaully promt Hizbollah to get worse and worse and bomb more and more to prompt Israel towards war.

Now If Israel goes to war they move in, they get stuck in Lebanon for a while, something they don't want and something that will cost lives and will ensure Hizbollah god like status amongst the lebanese as thier own ***** governemtn won't do or say anything good nor bad. Also Hizbollah could kill the soldiers making Israel look really dumb as mentioned by someone else.

They only way out I see, diplomacy. Someone has to intervene, demaned Lebanon "restrain" Hizbollah and take control of it's own state and agree some sort of prisoner swap with Israel and Lebanon. That leaves the Hamas issue, again same situation, what do hamas care how amny people you kill, more posters of martyrs to print and circulate to consolidate power.

Bluesman

Well, of COURSE you think like that. Your world-view is impossibly warped, and you simply can't help but come to outlandish conclusions.

Danielk

Israel withdrew from Lebanon six years ago in a process approved by the United Nations. What did they get in return?

Continued shelling and attacks from inside Lebanon,thanks to the Hezbollah terrorists backed by Syria and Iran.

Last year, Israel withdrew from Gaza by forcing out Israeli settlers by sending in its own army. ( Pretty Painfull? )

What did it get in return? Continued attacks and shelling right under the nose of the Hamas government backed by Iran and other terrorist groups.

Then, in recent days, first Hamas and then Hezbollah staged raids from their Gaza and Lebanon bases on to the Israeli military outposts, kidnapping one soldier in Gaza, and two in the Lebanese attack, while killing eight others.

Sea Toby

As I mentioned before, I don't think Israel is going to get sucked into Lebanon or the Gaza Strip this time. Just bomb the hell out of the bridges along the coast and in the mountain passes, bomb the runways at the airport, bomb any relief column of trucks entering, and bomb every known site of its enemy. Use the time tested and old fashioned seige tactics. Its work in the past, and it will work today. Starve the enemy into submission.....

After Hurrican Katrina hit New Orleans, its citizens were hunting for food and water in just a couple of days. I wonder how long Lebanon and the Gaza Strip can hold out. I have this funny feeling they will run out of food long before they run out of ammo, but what good is the ammo if you have already died of hunger?