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Old 07-01-2006, 11:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Free the Israeli soldier

I feel so sorry for the soldier that has been kidnapped. He's only 19 and what goes on between the two country's isn't his fault. He must be so scared and my thoughts are with him.
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Old 07-01-2006, 11:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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JERUSALEM (CNN) -- Three Palestinian militant groups reportedly holding an Israeli soldier hostage issued demands Saturday shortly after an Israeli state-run television station reported that Cpl. Gilad Shalit had been treated by a doctor.

Shalit's abduction on Sunday by Palestinian militants triggered an ongoing military offensive that Israel says is aimed at freeing the soldier.

The groups said they wanted 1,000 Arab prisoners released from Israeli jails, according to a statement faxed to media outlets early Saturday. The statement did not make it clear whether the groups were asking for the prisoners' releases in return for Shalit's release.

The prisoners include women and children.

Israel has flatly rejected any prisoner swap.

Earlier Friday, a doctor told Israeli TV that he has seen the 19-year-old Shalit and treated him for injuries.

The report by the state-run Israel Broadcasting Authority gave no details about Shalit's injuries or condition.

CNN has not independently confirmed the TV report.

Israel on Friday delayed a ground operation in northern Gaza while diplomats worked to end the crisis.

As those talks went on, Israeli warplanes hit the Palestinian Authority's Interior Ministry building in Gaza City, which the Israeli military said was being used "for directing and planning terror activities."

No casualties were reported after the strike, which left the building ablaze. (Watch images from the aftermath of the strikes -- 7:02)

Later Friday, Israeli warplanes attacked a Hamas-affiliated training camp, Abu Rish, near Khan Yunis in southern Gaza, Palestinian sources said. Israel confirmed the airstrike, saying it targeted a Hamas terrorist training camp, which was empty at the time, an Israel Defense Forces spokesman said.

Although the northern Gaza operation has been put off, Israel's ground forces remain in southern Gaza and are continuing to shell targets in northern Gaza.

Daniel Ayalon, Israel's ambassador to the United States, said Thursday on CNN's "The Situation Room" that troops are moving slowly and patiently to avoid "undue misery."

"We're willing to wait," he said. "We will give diplomacy a chance as we have already been."

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Old 07-01-2006, 14:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I read a doctor has already seen him, I dunno if that true or not.
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Old 07-01-2006, 21:11 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I feel so sorry for the soldier that has been kidnapped. He's only 19 and what goes on between the two country's isn't his fault. He must be so scared and my thoughts are with him.
I'd hate to be in his shoes. That said... its part of the gig LauraLou. I do hope it all works out for him has quickly and painlessly as will be possible.
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Old 07-02-2006, 01:38 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Half the people who might have died in this conflict died needlessly.

People who died on the beach had no fault either.

My thoughts go out to him too these are very dirty tactics. Shows that their leaders have had the Muslim cause stooped as low as the Israeli governments'.
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Old 07-02-2006, 07:51 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Most of the people killed in the conflict were innocent
Whether killed by Israeli government or by the suicide bombing both the israelis and the Palestinians.

The kidnapping will not serve the palestinian cause it will do more harm as the israeli govt is known for more retaliatry tactic thn negotiations.

there will be more killings of palestinians in air raids.
moreover its not the best way to carry on the strugle.

kidnapping wont serve them any purpose. he must be freed. So as the childern and women in perisons.
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Old 07-02-2006, 09:48 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Why must the women and "children" be freed? Do you not believe that people under 18 are capable of murder or terrorism? Do you not believe there is such a thing as female murderers or terrorists? If the "children" were 5 or 10 years old, yeah, they should be freed, but they are more like 15, 16, and 17 year olds, and apparently some are getting arrested on purpose.

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Old 07-02-2006, 11:03 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Hell, some of these kids look like they're 16, but in reality they're much older. Once we apprehended two rock-throwers who looked to be about 16. When we opened their ID, we saw that one of them was 21 years old, and the other was 22.
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Old 07-02-2006, 11:16 AM   #9 (permalink)
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im not defending the terrorists if they had murdered thn they need to be dealt according to the law if its exisists at all.

So you think all those stone throwing kids or even adults as u said we see on television deserve prison?

And being murderer and terrorist and being just suspected are two different things.
if they are arrested just beacuse of suspision they should be freed after necessary investiagtion.
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Old 07-02-2006, 11:30 AM   #10 (permalink)
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So you think all those stone throwing kids or even adults as u said we see on television deserve prison?
I know of no civilized country in the world, where one can throw rocks at people without risking jail time.
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Old 07-02-2006, 11:41 AM   #11 (permalink)
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The people we arrest due to suspicions we release if there's no reason to hold them. I know this for a fact. As a general rule though, we only arrest people in the middle of the night if they deserve it, not if were suspicious of them.
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I know of no civilized country in the world, where one can throw rocks at people without risking jail time.
Yes, but throwing rocks at tanks is a different thing.

To anyone else, thats the height of desperation seen when one's literrally pinned up against the wall.

That's one thing about supporters of Israel in this conflict. They're blind supporters. They go way far out in rationalizing why its ok to kill civillians and even rock throwers.

When tanks roll down your neighborhood you do just that! Fight back.
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Yes, but throwing rocks at tanks is a different thing.
Nope, still risk ending up in jail for it.
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They go way far out in rationalizing why its ok to kill civillians and even rock throwers.
I have yet to have to rationalize it, because I haven't seen Israel target civilians. Rock throwers are, as you put it, "fighting", thus are not civilians, and yet I still don't see where they are being killed.

Just a side note, if there's a riot in my neighborhood, I want the cops to fire waist high into the crowd. Compared to my view on violent criminals, the Israelis are passive to the extreme.
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Old 07-02-2006, 12:03 PM   #14 (permalink)
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That's one thing about supporters of Israel in this conflict. They're blind supporters. They go way far out in rationalizing why its ok to kill civillians and even rock throwers.
Some are. Some are not. Same with the supporters of the Palestinians. And it also depends on what kind of supporter of Israel you are. An Israel that continues to control most of the West Bank is unsustainable, therefore as a supporter of Israel, I oppose the settler movement and the IDF presence in the West Bank. But I have no problem with arresting or killing those who use violence. Rock throwing at tanks is one thing, rock throwing at infantry is another - what would you do if someone throws a rock really fast at your face?
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Old 07-02-2006, 12:10 PM   #15 (permalink)
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what would you do if someone throws a rock really fast at your face?

Pick it up and throw it back.
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