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Old 06-29-2006, 17:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Free Palestine

Watch those videos. REALLY HELPFUL......... I am sure many ignorant replies -GO ahead......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKQqItZu4Is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?search=...&v=4TACfbk1HiA
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Old 06-29-2006, 18:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Watch those videos. REALLY HELPFUL......... I am sure many ignorant replies -GO ahead......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKQqItZu4Is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?search=...&v=4TACfbk1HiA
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With every packet of cereal...

Emotive imagery is all well and good - but it cuts both ways. What about the dead children from suicide bombers? The orphans from the activities of HAMAS, Islamic Jihad etc?

How many tears would you be shedding had Israel lost the 1967 war? Would you be crying for the Jewish refugees in their camps? Or would they all simply be dead/deported?

Israel exists, like it or not. Dead with the lessons of history, come to an accomodation and accept a two-state solution. Stop the terrorism. Then we will have some more sympathy...
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Old 06-29-2006, 18:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Israel exists, like it or not.
And even when it's seemingly in a state of perpetual war, it gives more rights and allows more prosperity than any of the immediately surrounding countries, despite not being so blessed with natural resources.

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Dead with the lessons of history, come to an accomodation and accept a two-state solution. Stop the terrorism. Then we will have some more sympathy...
I agree.

Many 'pro-Palestinian' (for want for a better phrase) arguments are 58 years too late.
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Old 06-29-2006, 18:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Watch those videos. REALLY HELPFUL......... I am sure many ignorant replies -GO ahead......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKQqItZu4Is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?search=...&v=4TACfbk1HiA
Propaganda. I see that the terrorists are shameless, rushing children for photo opportunities in buildings where terrorists had hidden or were fighting from. Nice try, but we use facts and logic on this board, not emotions. Please try again, although you dig yourself a deeper hole everytime.
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Old 06-29-2006, 19:10 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Propaganda. I see that the terrorists are shameless, rushing children for photo opportunities in buildings where terrorists had hidden or were fighting from. Nice try, but we use facts and logic on this board, not emotions. Please try again, although you dig yourself a deeper hole everytime.
FACTS??? lol

which facts of those do you use?
Oh my god............. LOL
am done with ignorance.
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Old 06-29-2006, 20:26 PM   #6 (permalink)
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FACTS??? lol

which facts of those do you use?
Oh my god............. LOL
am done with ignorance.
You keep saying that you are done, but then you come back to spew your worthless propaganda. The fact is that the pictures of children amid the rubble are intended to portray the IDF as perpetrating violence against the kids. However, take Jenin for example, where the Palestinian propaganda machine was in full overdrive. When the dust all settled, 5000 Palestinian KIA turned out to be only 50, and wanton destruction turned out to be surgical operations done with the utmost care to avoid noncombatant casualties.

So, unless you have video of Israeli violence against kids, and don't try the famous hoax perpetrated by the French news organization, as we'll expose that quickly, save the propaganda for the mindless.
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Old 06-29-2006, 21:02 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Free Palestine from the Palestinian militants so their people can get some peace and quiet.
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Old 06-29-2006, 23:47 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Free Palestine from the Palestinian militants so their people can get some peace and quiet.
Amen...
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Old 06-30-2006, 05:09 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Thanks for posting, Grishnakh. Feast on any man-flesh lately?

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Old 06-30-2006, 09:44 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Its hard to take sides when both sides are wrong.
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Old 06-30-2006, 11:42 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Its hard to take sides when both sides are wrong.
That is true....
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Old 06-30-2006, 13:40 PM   #12 (permalink)
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When one side kills children on purpose and the other doesn't, I find it pretty easy to take sides.

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which facts of those do you use?
The use of children as human shields by Palestinian terrorists, for a start.
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One of the most succintly symbolic pictures I've seen in a LONG time, bigross.
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