Confed999

Liquid posted what you quoted, not me.

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leib10

Ah, but they're too smart to do anything like that, much as they'd like to rid themselves of Israel once and for all. I for one wish that they would get it over with, because a full blown war is inevitable. Maybe next week, maybe 50 years from now. But it WILL happen.

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Confed999

That's why I said "should".

leib10

Gotcha.

Liquid

Yeah, because him calling out war crimes against Israel isn't a bad thing in his country or with Hamas. Makes him look stronger and more with the people, gaining him some small points. Till at least, Israel blows him up with a missile.

Yeah, I agree completely that he is a hypocrite. But *if* Israel did do it, it doesn't mean it would be right either.

Yeah, Islamic Jihad throws in their own suicide bombers now and then. They have also woman and children suicide bombers as well. Real nice group they are.

Hezbollah isn't Palestine group but I think they are more into kidnapping and the one really big event that involved them that comes to mind is the early 1980's (beats me right now what year) suicide bombing of the US Marines that killed over 200 soldiers.

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Confed999

I'm highly doubtful Israel targeted those civilians.

Liquid

So do I. I'm just not going to state one thing and might be wrong later on when the report comes out. Why I said "if".

Asim Aquil

They could've not killed the Jamal dude first.

Obviously the Palestinian government DOESN'T want him dead and a truce was on. It was stupid to violate it. The entire government is HAMAS! With that argument they can kill the prime minister and argue he was a terrorist.

I know it could, but it hasn't. So it has no moral high ground in attacking either.

One of their explanations is suggestive that they don't know who did it and probably Palestinians did it to themselves.

Moreover there's a referrendum coming in Palestine that might help recognize Israel. Stuff like this is definitely going to affect the outcome. There's great progress that would be made once both nations exist as separate countries and thats where we should be headed.

Confed999

Just tossin' in my 2 cents too.

Confed999

Jamal could have not killed Israelis, and anyone else in the vicinity, including Muslims. Or Pali could have put him in jail themselves. Or the people could stop supporting Jamal. Blah, blah, blah...
I don't believe the PM is wanted for terrorism. If he is, then you're right.
Taking out the government of an oppressive state, starving it's own citizens so it can continue to support terrorism? I say they should go for it the second they can trace even one tiny terrorist act back to Hamas.
All that's left is for Pali to say the word. Been their move for sometime now...

lemontree

Looks like a nice plan to take away attention of the population from the beggar blow status of the Palestinian Govt. In all likely hood the Palestinians killed their own.

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bull

IDF never shies away from taking responsibilities after its attack on palestenian soil.They always come forward and take responsibilty for their actions.

But this time they never claimed it and said they shall investigate and tell us what might have happened.So till then IDF shudnt be blamed.

There was a doubt whether it was an unexploded shell in the beach that exploded on contact with the picnicing civilians.

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Aziqbal

No offence to anyone but todays mess in the middleast is a result of the backstabbing the Arabs gave to the Ottoman Empire, had the Arabs not sold themselves to the British Empire for a few coins Israel wouldnt have existed in the first place.

Ottoman Empire defended Jerusalam for centurys and were finally withdrawn from the holy land because of Arab nationalism and greed, so therefore the Arabs are themselves to blame for the current situation.

Now if 250 million Arabs in 22 countrys cant find a solution to this problem for the last 90 years its not any ones elses fault what happened to the palestinains.

You can only help someone if they are willing to help themselves, the minute the border with israel goes quite the Palestinains turn on each other this pretty much sums everything up.

This is why countrys like Turkey, Malaysia and now Pakistan couldnt care less.

lemontree

Quite right. I could'nt agree with you more.

Asim Aquil

Unfortunately 250 million people from 22 countries don't matter. Only 22 from 22 countries are calling the shots. Know what I mean?