Thread: Endgame in Iran?

How are you going to pump the sewage out with no electricity and how are you going to get the crap out when the main pipes are busted? How are you going to get the clean water to where it's needed?

Again, an earthquake tells you all that.

pumps running on oil, have seen entire industrial pockets right near delhi running exclusively on oil/gas generated electricity.

Busted pipes would signal delibrate attack on a city with the aim of destroying it, what was written was an attack on the electricity grid in order to shut it down.

If you want to know how to get drinking water to where its needed i think the city of delhi would be a good example, i dont know anyone who drinks tapwater without using some kind of filtering/boiling.

However yes if someone attacks with that aim, destroyes the water and waste water distribution network, attacks the reservoirs i would say that there is little chance of recovery, a simple boil water warning might not suffice.

Originally Posted by kuku

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However yes if someone attacks with that aim, destroyes the water and waste water distribution network, attacks the reservoirs i would say that there is little chance of recovery, a simple boil water warning might not suffice.

Especially when those nasty men called SAS and the US Marines toss dead camels down the wells

Dont know about US Marines, but SAS, sabotaging ayatollahs toilet facility added to a already long list of jobs.:O

Originally Posted by kuku

pumps running on oil, have seen entire industrial pockets right near delhi running exclusively on oil/gas generated electricity.

And those would be targetted as well. What is needed to run a cascade can also run a small city.

Originally Posted by kuku

Busted pipes would signal delibrate attack on a city with the aim of destroying it, what was written was an attack on the electricity grid in order to shut it down.

Nuke plants need water more than people.

Originally Posted by kuku

If you want to know how to get drinking water to where its needed i think the city of delhi would be a good example, i dont know anyone who drinks tapwater without using some kind of filtering/boiling.

However yes if someone attacks with that aim, destroyes the water and waste water distribution network, attacks the reservoirs i would say that there is little chance of recovery, a simple boil water warning might not suffice.

The idea is to collapse any and all infrastructure that can support a nuclear weapons plant. The people are collateral damage.

Originally Posted by S-2

Here's a link for Tankie's Reuters article-


As matters stand, I'm not particularly overwhelmed in any case. Most of the opposition has rallied around dissident clerics. How that shakes out WRT internat'l relations might prove questionable. Bluntly, we may be facing a variation of a theme, discernable internally but promising no change in its external outlook.

Im afraid i share your sentiments as well. The problem that the international community has with Iran is its nuclear program. Right now as it stands i haven't heard anyone from the opposition say anything different to what the current regime says as far as the nuclear issue is concerned. We might just be used by the opposition to grab power for itself but end up with the same problem we had in the first place.

Originally Posted by Bigfella

Zinja,

Apologies if I got the wrong end of the stick. I'm not a great fan of cheap shots, even against politicians I don't much like. As it happens I am not especially impressed by Obama after one year, but I think he is handling this OK.

I largely agree with your second point. I am happy to see the US support freedom & democracy, but that support has to be carefully calculated to suit each situation. You are right about people having to be willing to secure their own freedom, though I have no objection to well targetted outside assistance (without which America would have struggled to win independence). In this case, however, 'hands off' is by far the best approach. I too hope that these brave Iranians, many of them kids, are successful.

I wholly agree Bigfella!

Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

Hey, idiot. The crowd here sees NO choice but to bomb. Iran is making nukes while under the protection of the NPT ... and therefore SUBJECT TO the punishment of the NPT.

OoE, personally im for to bombing the mullahs to stone age but i don't want the US bearing the responsibility, at least not alone. Even those like China, Russia and some Arab countries know that Iran is being a nuisance but they are just cornering the US and then reap the benefits. Everybody was on US's throat when they went down town Baghdad accusing the US of being after oil, but now who are drilling the oil from Iraq enjoying the security that has been provided by hard earned US tax payer dollars and US blood?

If Iran is to be bombed it has to be an international effort everyone bearing a share of the cost. Why should the US be lured into bankrupting itself for the benefit of others?

Originally Posted by Aryajet

The most insensitive, immoral and selfish comment I've ever read in WAB.
I can post videos and pix of what is going in Iran and what Iranian people are going through at this moment but I will refrain from doing so b/c nothing will change yours and other "Bomb Bomb Baby" crowd's mindset.

Insensitive and immoral in what sense? Why did you not toi-toi the streets when US servicemen were being blown to pieces by Iran made bombs? How is that more moral than merely saying the Iranians should pave their own freedom? Yes, human suffering caused by oppressive regimes is inexcusable and our hearts go out to the suffering Iranians who are on the receiving end of this regime, and we do wish them speedy success in their endeavor. However to think that your cause is more deserving because you can post videos of, may i respectfully say 8 people, when there has been no street protests when more than 4 000 US servicemen were being killed by weapons made by your same country is, to put it mildly, hypocritical.

Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

Captain,
In other words, if we cannot identify the bomb making factories, we will spread cholera throughout Iran.

Sucks big time, doesn't it?

Yep! It sure does but that is the fact of life sir.

Originally Posted by Chunder

That's going to be a real blow to them as Tehran has just undertaken a Sewerage collection & infrastructure treatment program through a loan from the World Bank / IMF whatever (escaped me now) Prior to 2002 the cities effluent was just dumped into the ground I.E prior they did not have treatment. Back to 2002.

Im surprised they managed to get funds from the world financial institutions when the US could have vetoed it.

Originally Posted by pChan

Israel prefers A-Jad in command than the "reformists" who may invariably support their proxies. And there is a reason for that. Any regime "adjustment" without removal of the ideological underpinnings would only give ammunition to wild-eyed lefties. These lefties can be counted on to do maximum damage by letting an Iran still arming its proxies acquire nukes.

Personally I see these wild-eyed lefties with their "I don't agree with the mullahs but you know they have a point when they ...... " BS are about in the same plane as the "silent" muslims who don't come out on the streets to unconditionally condemn the jihadis and would rather parrot the line "I abhor suicide bombers but you know they....". I used to think that by themselves they are not dangerous but now I am not so sure.

I wish those brave souls in the streets of Teheran every success. I also hope they succeed in installing a regime more representative of themselves for anything short of that is unacceptable.

Took words out of my mouth Chan. Co-signed to that!