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Old 04-25-2008, 12:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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US Fires on Iran's Fast Boats

FOXNews.com - Navy-Contracted Vessel Fires Warning Shots on Iranian Boats - International News | News of the World | Middle East News | Europe News

I say stop firing warning shots.
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Old 04-25-2008, 19:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I agree!! Its time to put them in their place when it comes to international waters.
The funny thing is, as the U.S. fires warning shots at these boats, Iran, at the same time, denies that they are their boats. If the U.S. fires at the boats and sinks them, Iran would probably cry to the rest of the world on U.S. hostility.
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Old 04-26-2008, 20:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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of course they would. but a maj. of these boats may not be what they seem. alot has to do with items not allowed in Iran and young adults smuggling. so on and so forth, but i could be wrong, and hopefully soon we will find out if i am dead wrong
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Old 04-27-2008, 15:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 04-27-2008, 18:41 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Old 04-27-2008, 19:26 PM   #6 (permalink)
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of course...i was just adding to the zest of the conversation
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Old 04-28-2008, 09:29 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Isn`t that what Iran want, the mighty US ship to sink a poor little speedboat, for me it seems a bit pointless being there lettng these ..................... take the piss, if they want an International outrage give them one, shooting warning shots is just a waste of muntions, sink a couple and they will soon Uck off
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Old 04-28-2008, 13:19 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I agree. At what point do we start caring more about global image and not force security? We will see after the election this year wont we?
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Old 04-28-2008, 20:33 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I agree. At what point do we start caring more about global image and not force security? We will see after the election this year wont we?
It has more to do with abiding by international treaty on movement through international waters than it does global image.

You cannot just start blowing boats away in international water without going through the process of verbal and visual signals, and warning shots.
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Trust me sir i fully understand the object of per. sec. and the steps in escalation of force. But if there persist and ignore the blatent signs then diplomacy has failed in that instance and force is justified
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So what will the outcry be when one of these boats full of explosives sneaks through and blows the warship to hell and back
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Old 04-29-2008, 14:04 PM   #12 (permalink)
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So what will the outcry be when one of these boats full of explosives sneaks through and blows the warship to hell and back
Oh...well, we shouldn't have been in there in the first place. Our imperialistic policies have bred resentment throughout the world. Bush has squandered the good will of our allies and refused to talk to the other side. If he could just talk to them we could solve this crisis peacefully and all live happily ever after.

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Old 04-29-2008, 15:58 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Trust me sir i fully understand the object of per. sec. and the steps in escalation of force. But if there persist and ignore the blatent signs then diplomacy has failed in that instance and force is justified
But you have to go through the steps first.

At XXX meters from boat warning shots will be fired.

If the boats get to XXX meters from the boat, you engage the boats.

That is what has been happening. It is international waters, bordering on the territorial waters of a country. All countries have a right of passage. You cannot start shooting at boats that have a right to be in the same area as your ship. You must have justification.

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This isn't a "Sneak up" issue. They are doing it in plain sight.

But If one were to close in and blows a hole in a warship.Iran becomes one big parking lot for the middle east

This one could not be explained off like the Stark incident was.
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Old 04-29-2008, 16:59 PM   #14 (permalink)
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It has more to do with abiding by international treaty on movement through international waters than it does global image.

You cannot just start blowing boats away in international water without going through the process of verbal and visual signals, and warning shots.
Can enough warning be given by turning one or more of the sixteen inch guns on a USN Warship towards an Iranian speedboat. Let one keep heading towards the ship, and see if it can turn out of the way of a salvo.
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Oh...well, we shouldn't have been in there in the first place. Our imperialistic policies have bred resentment throughout the world. Bush has squandered the good will of our allies and refused to talk to the other side. If he could just talk to them we could solve this crisis peacefully and all live happily ever after.

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Is this national hug a suicide bomber day?
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