Will Israel attack? - Page 2

Feanor · 11-07-2007, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by VarSity

Actually my suggestion of an attack was with the US involved, as I cant see Israel every going it alone on this one.

So the real question is whether the U.S. would cave to Israeli demands for such a strike?

lwarmonger · 11-07-2007, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bella

Iran has stated that it want Isreal wiped off the map! I know that if I was a leader of a country, and another country wanted me destroyed....I just might have to attack before they achieve nuclear weapons.

Khruschev also said that the Soviet Union would bury us. We managed to have a nuclear cold war for forty years without ever having a nuke detonated in anger. Were Israel to attack Iran, the chances of Iran being willing to risk a nuclear war with Israel once it became a nuclear power would increase dramatically.

Especially since Israel lacks the ability to shut down Iran's program the way they could with Iraq and/or Syria.

Dago · 11-07-2007, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by HistoricalDavid

If it does it does with the permission of the United States, and if I were the United States I'd much rather do it myself. At this point, whatever Israel does will be a sideshow to the main MOP-bustin' spectacle.

It will be difficult for Israel to do anything. Their aircraft will be at the very limit of their fuel legs due to long range, possible terrain-hugging ingress, heavy ordnance and possible evasive manoeuvres if engaging with enemy IADS. I can't imagine fighter-bombers, possibly backed up by refuelling tankers, conclusively knocking out a programme like that (which has doubtlessly looked at Syria and Iraq's experiences) at those distances, which is why the US should do it itself if the situation comes to that.

Ok.

However, as you said if the situation bears, under what framework exactly? I mean, it's not like Iraq, when the United States had some sort of legality with UN security resolution demanding disarmament and with the charter stating "UN Member States Take It Upon Themselfs" to enforce UN resolutions.

To my knowledge, I don't know of any UN security resolution against Iran.

So, under the charter, I guess "Self Defense Clause". Even then though, that sets somewhat troublesome precedent and really defines that clause in a entirely new meaning. Which may or may not frankly influence other countries actions.

HistoricalDavid · 11-07-2007, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dago

However, as you said if the situation bears, under what framework exactly?

It doesn't really matter from my angle, which is military practicality - so sub in 'under any framework which would result in Israel and/or the United States would attack, legally or illegally, Iran's facilities.'

ArmAnt · 11-09-2007, 11:04 AM

Iran wont be attacked the U.S and Israel wont dare. !!

ArmAnt · 11-09-2007, 11:04 AM

Iran wont be attacked the U.S and Israel wont dare. !!

HistoricalDavid · 11-09-2007, 12:14 PM

Did you think silly unqualified statements sound better in stereo or what?

Zinja · 11-09-2007, 22:41 PM

BBC made a documentary a while ago about Israel's position with the Iranian issue. I think it is one of the most indepth analysis of Israel's psyche towards the perceived threat posed by Iran. It's a six clip documentary. You can follow up the rest of the clips in the relate clips section, thought you might want to see it.

YouTube - BBC documentary: Will Israel bomb Iran? Part 1 of 6

Dwarven Pirate · 11-22-2007, 09:30 AM

I voted yes, because I think it is apparent that they want to. But I would take back this yes vote as (1) I do not think Israel feels that US is in any position to defend them against repercussions and (2) US would be 'disappointed' in further Iranian interference in Iraq (and I believe military aggression against Iran would provoke them into much more of this at the very least).

If they are going to, it will probably happen before Nov US elections, I think. But they will need a better excuse or some smoking gun.

WhamBam · 11-24-2007, 06:45 AM

I voted yes, not because I think they would but because I hope they would. There are 3 countries in the main which need to be brought down to their knees so that the world can get on with their job without worrying too much about the next terror attack.

Iran is one of them.

Mobbme · 12-18-2007, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by WhamBam

I voted yes, not because I think they would but because I hope they would. There are 3 countries in the main which need to be brought down to their knees so that the world can get on with their job without worrying too much about the next terror attack.

Iran is one of them.

Whose the other 2?

WhamBam · 12-18-2007, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mobbme

Whose the other 2?

The country which finances world terror and which supplied the maximum nationals for 9/11.

The country where every wannabe Islamic terrorist heads for inspiration and training from all over the world and from where the money for the 9/11 operation was transferred to the USA.

Zaphael · 12-18-2007, 13:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ironduke

With the strike against the Osirak reactor in 1981, and news of a strike against a Syrian reactor under preliminary construction recently, do you think Israel will attempt an air or missile strike against the Iranian reactors if it seems apparent that Iran is developing nuclear weapons?

Should Israel strike? Can they? All opinions welcome.

From what I heard, the Syrian site was not a reactor under construction. Possibly a site storing a weapon or a component for a weapon instead. All in all, it was a complicated mess than included the Iranians and North Koreans as well. Everything went hush hush after that.

Yes, Israel will strike. And they definitely have the ability to do so. Until weapons such as those S-300s are introduced to the region, they are unlikely to be able to deter such a strike. It will be interesting to see what the Russians will equip Iran with though.

HistoricalDavid · 12-18-2007, 17:04 PM

What's so special about S-300s?

Stan187 · 12-18-2007, 18:43 PM

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Originally Posted by HistoricalDavid

What's so special about S-300s?

Well, according to wiki, the US bought some 300V models to evalute the technology. Seems a bit fishy..

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