Kansas Bear

BAGHDAD — Iran has demanded that Iraqi Kurds leave their border villages.
Kurdish sources said Iran's military has dropped leaflets into Iraqi Kurdish villages that call for their immediate evacuation. The leaflets warned the Kurds of impending Iranian military strikes.

"The authorities of the Islamic Republic of Iran will work on cleansing this area," the leaflet said.


On Aug. 20, Kurdish sources said an Iranian military helicopter was shot down by Kurdish insurgents near the Iranian-Iraqi-Turkish border. The helicopter was said to contain at least six Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps officers assigned to direct attacks against the Kurds.
The leaflets were distributed in the northern province of Irbil on Aug. 19 as Iranian troops began deployment along the Iraqi border. Kurdish sources said Iran appeared ready to launch an offensive against Kurdish insurgents from the so-called Party of Freedom of Life, which demands autonomy for Kurds in Iran.

The sources said Iranian forces were deployed near the Iraqi town of Haj Omran. The military operation was said to have been coordinated with Turkey.

"Our enemies, mainly the Americans, are trying to plant security hurdles in our country," the Iranian leaflet said. "They achieved this through using agents in the [Iraqi] areas of Kandil and Khaneera inside the Kurdish region."

World Tribune — Iran leaflets threaten Kurds in northern Iraq with 'cleansing'

entropy

What will the American response be if the Iranians will do something like that?

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Bella

Well...........If I had to guess.......Iran would cross the line with the U.S. and have any fighters, bombers, ect in the area destroyed.
But........I don't know.

timhaughton

Is there any proof they were dropped by Iran? Other than the writing on it that says "We were dropped by Iran"

Kansas Bear

All the PROOF you needed for some fanciful CIA/Al-Qaeda connection was 2 sentences written in the Guardian Unlimited. Pity they didn't mention Azzam. Pity they didn't mention how Azzam was murdered by Bin Laden. Pity they don't mention Al-Qaeda didn't exist until AFTER Azzam's murder. Pity they left out how Bin Laden used his own money to finance Azzam and later Al-Qaeda.


So much for PROOF!

Big K

Kandil Mountain is the home of PKK terrorists organisation.

PKK is attacking Iran too...

they have to defend theirselves like Israel did before...

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timhaughton

I do get the feeling that I could send you a picture of Bin Laden showing off a blank CIA cheque, and you still wouldn't see it.

Between 1978 and 1992, the US government poured in at least US $6 billion (some estimates range as high as $20 billion) worth of arms, training and funds to prop up the mujaheddin [in Afghanistan]. Other western governments, as well as oil-rich Saudi Arabia, kicked in as much again. Wealthy Arab fanatics, like Osama bin Laden, provided millions more. ...
Washington's favoured mujaheddin faction was one of the most extreme, led by Gulbuddin Hekmatyar. ... Osama bin Laden was a close associate of Hekmatyar and his faction.

[Norm Dixon, "How the CIA created Osama bin Laden" (autumn 2001)]





As his unclassified CIA biography states, bin Laden left Saudi Arabia to fight the Soviet army in Afghanistan after Moscow's invasion in 1979. By 1984, he was running a front organization known as Maktab al-Khidamar ["Services Office"] — the MAK — which funneled money, arms and fighters from the outside world into the Afghan war.
What the CIA bio[graphy] conveniently fails to specify (in its unclassified form at least) is that the MAK was nurtured by Pakistan's state security services, the Inter-Services Intelligence agency, or ISI, the CIA's primary conduit for conducting the covert war against Moscow's occupation. ...

[Michael Moran, "Bin Laden comes home to roost", MSNBC, 24 Aug. 1998]

Do you believe the CIA?

Kansas Bear

Maybe you could explain why OBL would need any money when your own post states he provided MILLIONS!!

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Washington's favoured mujaheddin faction was one of the most extreme, led by Gulbuddin Hekmatyar. ... Osama bin Laden was a close associate of Hekmatyar and his faction. [Norm Dixon, "How the CIA created Osama bin Laden" (autumn 2001)]

As I said before OBL was 'working' for/with Azzam. OBL had money and had no need for the CIA.

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As his unclassified CIA biography states, bin Laden left Saudi Arabia to fight the Soviet army in Afghanistan after Moscow's invasion in 1979. By 1984, he was running a front organization known as Maktab al-Khidamar ["Services Office"] — the MAK — which funneled money, arms and fighters from the outside world into the Afghan war. What the CIA bio[graphy] conveniently fails to specify (in its unclassified form at least) is that the MAK was nurtured by Pakistan's state security services, the Inter-Services Intelligence agency, or ISI, the CIA's primary conduit for conducting the covert war against Moscow's occupation. ... [Michael Moran, "Bin Laden comes home to roost", MSNBC, 24 Aug. 1998]

ISI supplied hundreds of Arabs and Afghans. The CIA sent the funds to the ISI, and the ISI sent the weapons/money to whomever. I know who the CIA did contact and it wasn't OBL.

timhaughton

If you believe it costs millions to fight the Soviet Union, you could be forgiven for your point of view. CIA puts in billions, OBL puts in millions, see the discrepancy? Factor of a thousand difference. That's why he needed the CIA's cheque book.

Unless of course you're calling the people who I quoted liars. In that case, it's just a difference of opinion, and that's OK.

Kansas Bear

No where have I said that.


OBL went to Afghanistan of his own accord, with his own money, working for/with Azzam. Using his own money he funded his own group. Did OBL's group work out of Pakistan? I'm sure. Did they take/purchase weapons from the ISI? Most likely. Did the CIA even know who he was prior to 1991? No.


Liars? More like people looking to make a connection to the CIA regardless of the facts. If they took the time to do some research they'd find the CIA had contacted one person in Afghanistan AFTER the Soviets left. Later this very same person is killed by al-Qaeda on Sept 9, 2001.


Here's the bigger question, "Why does OBL issue a fatwa in 1998 against a nation thousands of miles away, when Russia/Soviet Union has been killing Muslims(Chechnya/Afghanistan) for decades?

smilingassassin

So is that a green light for Iran to threaten ethnic clensing then?

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Big K

ofcourse not!

who mentioned ethnic cleansing? i only marked that Kandil Mountain is a place of terrorism nothing more!

smilingassassin

Iran of course...

Sounds like ethnic cleansing to me...

Big K

are you believing those "kurdish sources?"

PKK is living in these villages...some Kurds are supporting PKK terrorists!

i dont think and believe an ethnic cleansing will take place...

Kansas Bear

Iran shelling targets deeper inside northern Iraq

Iranian forces have shelled deeper into northern Iraq than previously, hitting targets in an area northeast of the city of Arbil, a local official said Thursday.
"The Iranian forces began their bombardments again on Wednesday evening targeting far away from the border," said Abdul Wahid Koani, mayor of the Kurdish Iraqi border town of Joman.

"This time the Iranian bombardment was different as it targeted a town deep inside Iraqi territory," Koani told AFP.

Iranian artillery shells landed in the Haj Umran area, hitting targets on two mountains and villages abandoned from earlier attacks, he said, adding that they reached as far as 17 kilometres (10.5 miles) into Iraqi territory.

Iran confirmed for the first time on Sunday that it had been shelling camps of Kurdish militants inside northern Iraq, saying the local authorities had not listened to its warnings.

The militant Kurdish separatist group PJAK -- linked to Turkey's outlawed Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) -- has been behind a string of deadly attacks on security forces in northwestern Iran in recent months.

Iraqi Kurdish officials said last month that hundreds of Iraqi Kurds had fled remote mountain villages near the country's eastern frontier after Iranian gunners targeted separatist guerrilla bases.

Iran shelling targets deeper inside northern Iraq: mayor