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US keeps nuclear pressure on Iran

The US has said it could still refer Iran to the UN Security Council, even though nuclear inspectors said Tehran had fully suspended uranium enrichment.

The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) said 20 disputed centrifuges had now been included in Iran's freeze.

It passed a resolution welcoming the suspension, but containing no threat to send Iran to the UN Security Council if it resumes enrichment.

The White House said it maintained the right to refer Iran unilaterally.

White House spokesman Scott McClellan said: "The implementation and verification of the agreement is critical."

"Iran has failed to comply with its commitments many times over the course of the past year and a half," he added.

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Ray

Iran would not bother about the US since it knows that it can make things hot for the US in Iraq as also that the US is on a tight lease as far as deployable manpower for any military intervention.

The only way she can be 'sorted out' ( to some extent) is through a UN sanction (UN has its value inspite of the wide opinion here that it is a moribund organisation). That is the reason why she is playing ball with EU.

Veni Vidi Vici

Looks like its about time to invade them. Who knows we might actually find WMDs there.

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lulldapull

Actually Ray the reality is that energy starved China just signed a huge oil deal with Iran that will take em both to a new level of 'Friendship'! Also russia is helping Iran develop all kinds of nuclear and missile technology, despite the Gore accord with Victor Chernomyrdin regarding helping Iran achieve missile indigenisation

The exchange is very simple Ray!

putin and his predecessor Yeltsin know very well that if they fukked around with Iran, then Iran would make their life untenable in southern Russia! specially in Chechnya and dagestan, Azerbaijan and persian Tajikistan!

All those russian republics are basically Persianised Turks! So in exchange for keeping its nose out or CIS states, iran is getting much more in return!

Also the security council can't do shiit, because both ussia and China would veto any resolution condemning Iran! And that is rightfully so because if you don't agree with U.S. policy in the middle East, than that shouldn't be an automatic trigger for sanctions or attack!

you understand?

right now Iran is a powerful counter to wahabbi terror! if Bush stoops down to his low I.Q. again and makes a policy blunder, than this current war in iraq will look like a school yard fight to what will happen in Iran. First let these 2 cent Neocons figure a way out of Iraq and Afghanistan, whwre they are being killed like stray dogs and no one gives a shiit!

Reality check for neocon lovers!

135 Americans died in November!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6577206/

Lets see how long bush boy will continue his stupidity.

Ray

Lull,

You a Shia.

I think so.

While I thank you for your insight since that a point of view I did not look at and is helpful yet.....

Heard of the Shanghai Five? What's that about to China?

China is exploring the Siberian gas also.

Veni Vedi Vici,

The US has no more troops.

lulldapull

No man I am an atheist!

Besides all this moaning and screaming wont help the U.S.! perhaps its time we have a national debate regarding the feasibility of our current pro-israeli policy, at the expense of the rest of the middle east.

China and Russia simply wont condemn Iran or its nuclear program, and enjoy good relations with the tehran regime! Iran has every right to develop nuclear weapons as a sovereign nation.

Khamenei has drawn the line, and frankly told these Neocons on their faces ( try stopping us), and even this last suspension of enrichment is temporary! And who is to say that Iran doesn't have many parallel programs running underground...side by side so to speak?

Thats all it boils down to! the U.S. will have to deal with Iran some other way, becasue it wont stop its nuclear program.

And once in all honesty Russia wont allow the U.S. to walk in Iran! iran has important commercial and industrial contacts with moscow, and is basically the last viable and strong Russian Ally left in the middle East. Russia has been cultivating iran for its own interests in the M.E. If Bush has the balls then he should attack Tehran, instead of talking tough!

And I agree with you! one of the fundamental policies of putin/ Zemin/ Chirac doctrine is a multi polar world, and all three gaandoo are hard at it! Rusia and China have finally demarcated their entire frontier and are doing very brisk trade worth in the billions every year! and even in weapons!

Tough shiit if the criminal Neocons don't like it! They're becoming less and less important both militarily as well as politically as each day goes by, and al them countries laugh at us!

Who'd have imagined 2 years ago how badly these misadventures in Iraq and afghanistan would turn out?

iraq and Afghanistan have become meat grinders! They are sucking in an incredible amount of men, money and equipment. While our country is being relegated to the status of a second rate nation like England.

Sheeeeeeeeeesh!

Veni Vidi Vici

Isin't that what people said about the war in Iraq?

Ray

It appears that you are a patriot but how the military works, on that it appears that apparently you and I have different perspectives.

Your statement in another thread that the US contributes maximum to UN peacekeeping operations is another example of our different perspective since the open sources have always indicated that Bangladesh contributed the maximum, followed by India and Pakistan. While you felt otherwise till the Colonel gave a link.

My belief is that the US military is stretched. This is my surmise from open sources.

The US has 135,000 troops preoccupied in Iraq and another 17,500 still in Afghanistan. U.S. forces overseas amount to more than a quarter-million soldiers in 130 countries. This is what is reported in the open sources.

Again in the open media, it is stated that insufficient forces will be available if the United States is forced to confront a new international emergency.

Senator Chuck Hagel, Republican from Nebrasa suggested that to raise troop levels available it would be a good thing to resume the draft! Obviousy, none in their senses would sugggest so since it will raise hackles.

While there is still 300,000 troops in mainland USA, all cannot be sent since there are strategic compulsions as also for every unit deployed overseas, one unit is preparing to replace it, and one unit is recovering from deployment.

Strategic compulsions have to be understood and it must be also understood that the wars that the US will be involved in order to pursue her strategic and national requirments will be more of the type in Iraq which is labour intensive or soldier intensive. Therefore, she has to have some troops in the kitty apart from the defence of mainland US from terrorists too.

Lastly, Iraq proves that more troops are required ot doesn't it? The US military has always felt that the number of troops is less. That is what the open sources indicate.

Steven Kosiak, director of federal studies at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, a Washington research group, has said that having 135,000 troops in Iraq is a stress on the system and that they can;t be kept indefinitely.

The US Congress has proposed adding as many as many as 80,000 troops. But the Bush administration has resisted, mostly because of the cost of maintaining a large, permanent army.

Obviously, these indicate that the US is stretched.

However, I would be most obliged if you as an American in the know give me information otherwise to what is my surmise and more so since my conclusions are all from my military knowledge and open sources and generally beleived contrary to your contentions.

ajaybhutani

they needed 135000 for iraq. So for iran they will need nearly the double . which makes all the Us soldiers out of US..That surely will be an all our war by US on the world. LOL...