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Old 04-12-2007, 23:14 PM   #46 (permalink)
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It wont happent. Any attack on the Iranian government and on Iran will harden peoples support for it. Ethnic issues are overhyped by the media. Military support for a few dozen bandits from Baluchestan is not going to result in all Iranians 'killing eachother'.



I dont.
The purpose of a secret war would be to get the Iranian Government to fight each other. Once the Iranian Government is disabled by the assassinations of the Iranian President and leading Iranian Mullahs, the bloodthirsty Revolutionary Guard would take over and start a premature war with Israel and the USA that Iran would lose. The Iranian people are just easily decieved cattle to be used by the Iranian Government. Whenever anything goes wrong in Iran the Iranian Government just blames their problems on the "Great Satan", the USA.

"Military support for a few dozen bandits from Baluchestan is not going to result in all Iranians 'killing eachother'."

If this secret war targeted the Iranian Mullahs and Iranian President and assassinated them than the power vacuum this would create would cause a power struggle (coup or civil war) which the Revolutionary Guard would win. Once the crazy, blood-thirsty Revolutionary Guard is in complete control of Iran they would start a pre-mature war with Israel and the USA, this would than provide an opportunity for the USA to destroy the Irananian Military and the Iranian Government in the interest of self defence.

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Old 04-14-2007, 21:08 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Read 'Unholy War' and "The Bear Trap" to observe the various players who organised the Mujahideens.

thank you mr ray, i have read that one ... compliment of Hishsea

on another issue, do you have any good reading material (book prefebably) regarding Indo-Pakistan wars, more on the recent conflicts, including the 1999 affair. I am looking for unbias-type of book much like the famed Cobra II.

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Xerxes,

The Brigadier was at Kragil. In fact, he's a veteran of all those wars. Don't know if you will get a non-bias view from him but you will get an honest view.
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Old 04-15-2007, 14:02 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Thanks OOE

Is there any books that you yourself suggest regarding the 99 Kragil war, the indo-pakistan war of 71, and the two wars in Chechnya. thanks in advance
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Read Capt Amarinder Singh's book "A Ridge Too Far".

It is one of the better books since it chronicalises the battle without any baggage of Indo Pak prejudice.

Capt Amarinder Singh is the Maharaja of Patiala and was the Chief Minister of Punjab.

There is also one book by Lt Gen Bami, but I have not read it. It is voluminous and the Indian readers have found it interesting.

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I would not be biased.

In fact, one of the Indian newspaper interviewed me recently on Mushraff's book, but did not publish the interview because possibly it was too factual a commentary by me without any fire, heat or smoke. However, I did benefit. They presented me with Musharraf's book which is indeed highly priced by Indian standards and which I wouldn't have bought in any case because of the price!
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Old 04-15-2007, 19:44 PM   #51 (permalink)
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You sound like some kind of pre-historic tyrant hell-bent on conquest and 'destruction' just for the sake of 'destruction'.
That's why we love him, the ole blood-drinker.

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So trying to incite a civil war in Iran as a precursor to an American-Israeli attack to 'annihilate' what it is left would be your way to 'deal' with the regime?
Nicely summed up. The answer is 'Yes; definitely.'

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And the Western media would have everyone believe that the only deluded fanatics to be found are in the Middle East?
No, actually, the Western media would actually have us believe nothing of the kind.
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It wont happent. Any attack on the Iranian government and on Iran will harden peoples support for it.
Possibly; let's try it and see.

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Ethnic issues are overhyped by the media. Military support for a few dozen bandits from Baluchestan is not going to result in all Iranians 'killing eachother'.
Still, JMH's point stands: that WOULD be better than a bazillion nuclear casualties from an Iranian/Israeli exchange.

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I dont.
Awesome. One less Iranian A-jad can't count on. Which, when you think about it, is the point JMH was making: A-jad and the ayatollahs (band name ) better watch their backs.
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