MrFirst

To kiss mr. Ahmadinejad ass. They've done this.
Good tactics, successful.

Major Dad

This is pretty interesting:

Iranian naval forces in the Gulf tried to capture an Australian Navy boarding team but were vigorously repelled, the BBC has learned.
The incident took place before Iran successfully seized 15 British sailors and Marines in March.

The lessons from the earlier attempt do not appear to have been applied in time by British maritime patrols.

The 15 Britons were searching a cargo boat in the Gulf when they were captured over a boundary dispute.

When Iranian Revolutionary Guards captured the British sailors and Royal Marines in March, it was not exactly their first attempt.

It turns out that Iranian forces made an earlier concerted attempt to seize a boarding party from the Royal Australian Navy.

The Australians, though, to quote one military source, "were having none of it".

The BBC has been told the Australians re-boarded the vessel they had just searched, aimed their machine guns at the approaching Iranians and warned them to back off, using what was said to be "highly colourful language".

The Iranians withdrew, and the Australians were reportedly lifted off the ship by one of their own helicopters.

The circumstances for the Britons in March were slightly different in that they were caught so much by surprise that, had they attempted to repel the Iranians with their limited firepower, they would doubtless have taken very heavy casualties.

But military sources say that what is of concern is that the Royal Navy did not appear to have taken sufficient account of the lessons of the Australian encounter.

In an oblique reference to the threat from Iran, Britain's First Sea Lord, Admiral Sir Jonathon Band, has recently admitted there was a need for greater strategic awareness in the northern Gulf.

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Iran 'unable to take Australians'

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Native

snicker@greater awareness
I was SIO on a Tico, it was my responsiblities to know those things and pass them on. I would have briefed the the Aussie incident to all incoming watch turn overs when it first happened. It would also have been briefed in the daily wardroom briefings at a minimum.
So where was the break down?

glyn

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Bluesman

Well, I went back through this thread, and MAN!, I was on FIRE! Had some really good posts, if i do say so myself!

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Elbmek

The difference between the Aussies and the so called Royal Marines is that the Aussies dont give a Four X for Iran

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dave lukins

And the "so called" Marines do?

Parihaka

The difference between the Aussies and the Marines is the Aussies know how to turn a ripe epithet. It's an antipodean trait you know...

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Officer of Engineers

People here are making the assumption that the Iranians did not learn from the 1st encounter and cut off the RM before they could find haven.

However, this would also missed the point. The capture of the RMs is a deliberate Act of War. This was the 2nd attempt and no one can tell me that the Iranian Command did not know full well of the 1st attempt and corrected their tactics.

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gunnut

Brits are too polite.

Aussies don't take bullsh!t. I learned that from the Australian girl at my work.

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jeffpayne56

nuke Tehran

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cheers Jeff

xerxes

nuke Washington DC












.... or is that a really stupid thing to say ....

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Elbmek

Joke - XXXX as in Fosters, Castlemaine etc.

S-2

".... or is that a really stupid thing to say ...."

Well since jeffpayne56 seems to be British, uh...yeah, maybe.

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