tarek

Turning

You brush with so wide a brush as to make your critique meaningless. Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan and Egypt have given rise to ideologies that under pin Sunni radicalism - in Iran you have a regime developed and committed to the radical Islamist project.

Amled

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Praxus

Wrong, the Iranian Government is the largest supporter of Islamic Terrorism on the face of the earth. It is the ideological base of militant Islam.

If we actually defeated them in an all out war, this terrorist crap would end.

turnagainarm

Tarek,
Is it not true that most of the terror attacks in the last decade or so have been carried out terror groups who are predominantly sunni terror groups with ideological linkage to Saudi/Pakistan (and may be Egypt).

Most of the hijackers of 9/11 were Saudies, since 9/11 all the terrorists have have been caught in Pakistan or if caught else where had links to Pakistan.

I understand that Iran supports Hebullah, and Hejbullah has some terror attacks in their name during the 80's. During the 90's they have fought a border war with Israel on the Israel-Lebenon border which ended when Israelies withdrew from Lebenon.

Other than that, I don't see Iran hands in international terrorism.

According to 9/11 commission report, both Pakistan and Saudi were upto their neck into it.

Can you name some of the terrorism sponsered by Iran and carried by Iran supported terrorist groups?

turnagainarm

Totally disagree with you. Ideological base of radical Islam is Wahabism, Saudis are the home base of Wahabism. Iranian are Shia muslims, they have nothing to do with Whabism.
Pakistan is a close ally of Saudi Arabia, and is the jehad factory capable of producing jehadis by millions. Pakistan was the creator of Taleban and Pakistani ISI was a close collaborator with Osama bin Laden and AlQaeda.

That said, I am not saying Iranian are innocent. They contrinue to support Hezbullah who had committed terrorists acts against US during the 80's. But during the 90's Hezbullah have not done much in the name of terror.

Current terrorists groups are all sunni terror groups with ideological and physical linkage with Saudis and Pakistan.

Praxus

The vast majority of Islamists are not Wahabi's.

They are the only Islamic Theocracy on the planet, how can you pretend they "didn't do much during the 90's. They have funded massacres all over the planet and have openly threatened an attack against the United States.

turnagainarm

It depends wheather you are going by the old definition of "Islamist", which simply means anybody who practices Islam is an Islamist (look up a dictionary), or the recent definition of "Isalmist" which stands for hardcore Islamic fundamentalism.

Going by old definition you would be right, going by the new definition, in the sense the word "Islamists" is being used currently, you would be wrong.

Hardcore Islamic fundalmentalism is wahabistic in nature and has been spread by Saudi Arabia wheather in Afghanistan or Pakistan or anywhere else.
Do you have any idea how many mosques Saudis have contructed here in US? Hundreds of them. In fact US has about 2,000 mosques, most of them were buit by Saudi money.

In any case we are talking terrorism here, and in the last decade or so AlQaeda has been the single dominant international terrorism oreganization, and we all know that AlQaeda and its affliates are Wahabi-sunni terrorist organization, which makes it a Saudi/Pakistani organization.


I am not pretending anything, I am just going by the historical/factual account.

All the major terrorist attacks during 90's and beyound have been carried out by AlQaeda and groups affliated to it.
AlQaeda is a sunni-wahabi terrorist organization.

Iranians are shias and ideologically opposed to sunni/wahabi brand of Islam. Recall that Taleban which was linked to AlQaeda massacred thousands of Hazara-shias in Afghanistan, which was not appriciated by Iran.

Can you list some of the massacres they have funded/committed all over the planet?

I don't think they threatened USA first.