ELECTION 2008 | The Pub | The Field Mess | The Staff College | Bookmark WAB



Go Back   World Affairs Board > International Strategic Affairs > The Iranian Question
Register FAQ WAB RSS Feed Forum GuidelinesMembers List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Greetings, and welcome to the World Affairs Board!

The World Affairs Board is one of the premier forums for the discussion of the pressing geopolitical issues of our time. Topics include foreign & defense policy, international security, military developments, weapons proliferation, terrorism, international strategic affairs, and politics. Our membership includes many from military, defense industry, and government backgrounds with expert knowledge on a wide range of topics. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so why not register a World Affairs Board account and join our community today?
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 09-06-2006, 13:36 PM   #121 (permalink)
Julie
Moderator
 
Julie's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-04-03
Location: Georgia, USA
Posts: 6,806
Country:
Quote:
Originally Posted by buisness man
Ahmadinijad always has that smurf on his face and when you look into them beady little eyes of his when hes talking you see someone who makes pinochio look bad,if i was the us or un would i trust him,no chance.
Do you guys ever wonder if he's on some kind of drugs or something....I'm not being funny.

His eyes are soooo squinched all the time like he's really high on something. What do yall think?

And if he was.....that would explain some of his emboldened behavior, no?
Julie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2006, 13:46 PM   #122 (permalink)
buisness man
Regular
 
Join Date: 09-01-06
Posts: 52
Quote:
Originally Posted by Julie
Do you guys ever wonder if he's on some kind of drugs or something....I'm not being funny.

His eyes are soooo squinched all the time like he's really high on something. What do yall think?

And if he was.....that would explain some of his emboldened behavior, no?
I think they call it hashish in the arab world.
buisness man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2006, 14:03 PM   #123 (permalink)
Ray
Postmaster General
Military Professional
 
Ray's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-20-03
Posts: 28,261
Country:
Let's invade.

The legal eagles then can find out the justification.

Things are slipping out of hand.

But lets wait......................

Khatami is in town!
__________________


"Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination."

I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to.

HAKUNA MATATA
Ray is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2006, 14:07 PM   #124 (permalink)
gunnut
Senior Contributor
 
gunnut's Avatar
 
Join Date: 01-27-06
Location: DPRK, Democratik People's Republik of Kalifornia
Posts: 10,208
Country:
I think we should give the UN and sanctions more time, while building a coalition force with our international allies as a last resort. But we must let diplomacy work its course, doesn't matter how long it takes. All we have to do is give them more time and talk to them some more. blah blah blah....


Sorry, I had another John Kerry flashback
__________________
"Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.
gunnut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2006, 14:15 PM   #125 (permalink)
Dreadnought
Senior Contributor
 
Dreadnought's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-12-05
Posts: 5,796
Country:
IMO If we are STILL searching for reasons then we must be as dumb as they suppose and expect we are. They broke the treaty they signed and are now just hiding behind ******** smoke screens and stalling as they continue their quest for fizzle material. We are fools if we allow them to produce a bomb and the future generations of many countries will pay the price for our foolishness especially the Jewish generations if we choose to do nothing but debate. IMO There is no debate STOP or we will STOP you for good.
__________________
Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.
Dreadnought is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2006, 14:16 PM   #126 (permalink)
Ray
Postmaster General
Military Professional
 
Ray's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-20-03
Posts: 28,261
Country:
Gannut,

International allies would be the same nations and everyone of them are stretched for troops and as financially. That unfortunately is the reality.

Diplomacy is as good as dead.

The only way to some action is stand off attacks on the facilities and damn the consequences.

However, unlike Iraq, this must be thought through and not having it hanging as another albatross around the neck!
Ray is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2006, 14:22 PM   #127 (permalink)
Dreadnought
Senior Contributor
 
Dreadnought's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-12-05
Posts: 5,796
Country:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray
Gannut,

International allies would be the same nations and everyone of them are stretched for troops and as financially. That unfortunately is the reality.

Diplomacy is as good as dead.

The only way to some action is stand off attacks on the facilities and damn the consequences.

However, unlike Iraq, this must be thought through and not having it hanging as another albatross around the neck!
Sir agreed, and we should be absolutely ruthless and miticulous about it. Let the Dems and bleeding hearts and media shut their mouths and stay out of it. Business is Business now lets start taking care of it.
Dreadnought is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2006, 15:04 PM   #128 (permalink)
gunnut
Senior Contributor
 
gunnut's Avatar
 
Join Date: 01-27-06
Location: DPRK, Democratik People's Republik of Kalifornia
Posts: 10,208
Country:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray
Gannut,

International allies would be the same nations and everyone of them are stretched for troops and as financially. That unfortunately is the reality.

Diplomacy is as good as dead.

The only way to some action is stand off attacks on the facilities and damn the consequences.

However, unlike Iraq, this must be thought through and not having it hanging as another albatross around the neck!
Sorry sir, I was being facecious.

The liberal left of this country led by Kerry and Kennedy like to spout off tired cliches like that to attack our president and his foreign policies. They offer nothing but appeasement to the forces of evil. They have no solutions.
gunnut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2006, 15:47 PM   #129 (permalink)
MaxiBig
New Member
 
Join Date: 09-06-06
Posts: 11
I see a war coming

i am pretty sure US wil kickass but then what ?The world has not seen Shiete terrorism yet....
__________________
Got nothing bettter to do - sit and **** on da net
MaxiBig is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2006, 16:10 PM   #130 (permalink)
Ray
Postmaster General
Military Professional
 
Ray's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-20-03
Posts: 28,261
Country:
Right now, the way it is going it appears that everyone is following the undermentioned philosophy:

"Take it easy, but look busy".
Ray is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2006, 20:18 PM   #131 (permalink)
BIKEMAN
Regular
 
Join Date: 09-04-06
Location: Chicago
Posts: 43
Rebuttal to reasons for taking out Iran

Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderous
The reasons why Iran should be taken out?

1. It's goal - to wipe Israel off the world map
2. It's ability to play with sects and create problems in Iraq and Lebanon.
3. It's offer of nuclear technology to any Islamic nation interested.
4. It's support for terrorists:- proven by recent investigations by the SEC about certain bank transactions originating from Iran whereby money was sent to one of the Hijackers in the US.
5. If Iran really wants to use nuclear plants for peaceful purposes they would not have had a problem accepting the Russian offer.
"Taken out" is a euphemism for thousands of Iranian military casualties, thousands of American military casualties and, probably 100,000 plus Iranian civilians killed in fighting, food and medicinal shortages etc. This time even the Brits will stay out and nobody pretends that the Polish, Estonian, Mongolian etc. soldiers that the US pays handsomely for will do real fighting.

I am certainly not defending Iran whose government I despise, but I would point out that Egypt and Jordan once wanted to wipe Israel off the map - that did not and could not justify invasions then. Point 2: Iran's ability to cause problems in Iraq and Lebanon is nothing to the US's ability. Point 3: it does not have completed deliverable nuclear technology to offer. Point 4: You have much ore justification for invading Saudi Arabia or Pakistan with this one. Point 5: would you accept Russian technology?

Most importantly - none of these 5 reasons justify a war since such a war would be distantly preventive, not pre-emptive. Such wars are illegal under international law.
BIKEMAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2006, 21:10 PM   #132 (permalink)
dalem
Lord High Hullabalooster
Senior Contributor
 
dalem's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-23-04
Location: Columbia Heights, MN
Posts: 8,737
Country:
I so dearly hope that, if Iran really does nuke up and really does ever use one of the things, they light it off somewhere other than the U.S. or Israel.

I will revel in the wails of woe.

-dale
dalem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2006, 21:18 PM   #133 (permalink)
Shek
Military Professional
Moderator
 
Join Date: 02-23-05
Location: Krblachistan
Posts: 7,953
Country:
Quote:
Originally Posted by BIKEMAN
"Taken out" is a euphemism for thousands of Iranian military casualties, thousands of American military casualties and, probably 100,000 plus Iranian civilians killed in fighting, food and medicinal shortages etc. This time even the Brits will stay out and nobody pretends that the Polish, Estonian, Mongolian etc. soldiers that the US pays handsomely for will do real fighting.

I am certainly not defending Iran whose government I despise, but I would point out that Egypt and Jordan once wanted to wipe Israel off the map - that did not and could not justify invasions then. Point 2: Iran's ability to cause problems in Iraq and Lebanon is nothing to the US's ability. Point 3: it does not have completed deliverable nuclear technology to offer. Point 4: You have much ore justification for invading Saudi Arabia or Pakistan with this one. Point 5: would you accept Russian technology?

Most importantly - none of these 5 reasons justify a war since such a war would be distantly preventive, not pre-emptive. Such wars are illegal under international law.
1. Israel did place military forces into Egypt and Jordan. In fact, the West Bank used to be part of Jordan.
2. Darth Sadr. Badr. SCIRI. You lose this point hands down.
3. Iran doesn't have trucks, ports, aircraft?
4. But those countries are working with us, at least to some degree.
5. The US said yes. Iran said no.
__________________
"So little pains do the vulgar take in the investigation of truth, accepting readily the first story that comes to hand." Thucydides 1.20.3
Shek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2006, 01:06 AM   #134 (permalink)
MaxiBig
New Member
 
Join Date: 09-06-06
Posts: 11
Just pay an Indian (Pakistanis can do it too)lawyer or Policeman.He can invent a zillion perfectely legal reasons if the price is right.
MaxiBig is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2006, 03:22 AM   #135 (permalink)
buisness man
Regular
 
Join Date: 09-01-06
Posts: 52
The thought that is on everybodys mind isWHO THE HELL DOES AHMADINIJAD THINK HE IS,hes president of a country with few or no nuclear weapons and he thinks he can defeat the usa.HA HA HA
buisness man is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What War With Iran Would Look Like astralis Political Discussions 0 09-17-2006 16:52 PM
Iran And Possible Developments Gazi The Iranian Question 2 02-26-2006 12:02 PM
Why use force when talk works so well? Leader International Defense Topics 54 12-05-2005 04:29 AM
An Article worthy of Lull..... MIKEMUN Political Discussions 2 03-18-2005 20:04 PM
A Preemptive Attack on Iran's Nuclear Facilities: Possible Consequences lulldapull International Defense Topics 14 11-20-2004 16:27 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:26 AM.


Rochen is the business hosting sponsor of World Affairs Board and a provider of reseller web hosting services.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC8