What legal reasons do we have to bomb/invade Iran? - Page 5

Tronic · 09-02-2006, 23:30 PM

heres what the rest of the world thinks....

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World Public Says Iraq War Has Increased Global Terrorist Threat

A new global poll finds that in 33 of 35 countries surveyed, the most common view is that the war in Iraq has increased the likelihood of terrorist attacks around the world. On average, 60 percent of the respondents have this perception, while just 12 percent think the Iraq war has decreased the likelihood of terrorist attacks; another 15 percent think it has had no effect either way.....

read on... World Public Opinion

Tronic · 09-02-2006, 23:33 PM

heres some more about what the world thinks....

wow... one thing that surprised me was that the Indian public support America staying in the war by a greater margin then America's northern partner Canadians do!!!

I thought, American-Canadian public was almost like one... and especially now since the Canadians have gotten a pro-American PM in place...

**Parihaka** · 09-03-2006, 01:58 AM

Here's what the Iraqis themselves think
http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ory?id=1389228

Tronic · 09-03-2006, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by parihaka

Here's what the Iraqis themselves think
http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ory?id=1389228

hmmm.... interesting... they think just like the rest...

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Fewer than half, 46 percent, say the country is better off now than it was before the war.

-this is from your link...

**Parihaka** · 09-03-2006, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Tronic

hmmm.... interesting... they think just like the rest...

-this is from your link...

Yeah, the big difference is 74% think it was a good idea to remove Sadam, the highest margin and I guess not suprisingly. So the perception of the world that things aren't going swimmingly their is born up by the Iraqis themselves, except the Iraqis have a more optomistic view of the future.
Interestingly only 33% of Iranians think it was a good idea. Yet it was Sadam who attacked them. Guess it must worry them having an American army on their doorstep.

gunnut · 09-03-2006, 03:12 AM

Holy...I turn my head for a few hours and this thread is 3+ pages long...

I'm not saying we should or shouldn't bomb/invade Iran. I just noticed that we have less legality to do anything about Iran.

What has Iran done to us since 1979? They took some hostages and we shot down one of their jets. They haven't shot at us or planned to kill our former president.

Talking is just that, talk. They haven't done anything to Israel. Do we really have the right to attack someone for talk?

Nuclear arms. Are they really nuclear capable? Says who? Who's verifying the reports of them being nuclear? The intelligence agencies of the western world?

Where have I heard that tune before?

Sure Iran is funding Hezbollah to destablize the middle east, but Hezbollah isn't a direct threat to us. Islamists from Pakistan seem to be more of a problem for the west. Ever notice most of the arrests made in the west for attempted terrorism are Pakistani?

bandwagon · 09-03-2006, 03:36 AM

I wonder what percentage of Iraqis refused to talk to the pollsters. In Western nations those refusing to take part in this poll could hold either opinion. In Iraq those refusing to take part are much more likely to have a negative view, introducing a bias into the poll.

smilingassassin · 09-03-2006, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Tronic

yes, Al-Queda and Taliban were more closely associated with an american ally that I wont mention and you probably already know then they were associated with Iraq...

You mean the Mujahadeen? Al-Q and the Taliban were formed from the remanents of the Mujahadeen, OBL being one of them.

If your refering to Pakistan as an American allie I wouldn't agree, they are merely a partner on the WOT seeing as they both have terrorists knocking at their gates and as such have common enemy's.

How does past errors in judgement effect how we should act now? Should we treat Germany and Japan as enemy's for their actions in WW2?

an4815 · 09-03-2006, 06:50 AM

Those islamist extremists were sure persecuted under Saddam. Looks like we liberated them to openly oppress secular Iraqis and create a terror state. Well that went mighty well didn't it?

That last sentence is sarcasm. I don't actually think it went well at all.

Commando · 09-03-2006, 06:55 AM

Legal reasons?

Israel does not need legal approval to protect itself!!!!

HistoricalDavid · 09-03-2006, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by bandwagon

In Iraq those refusing to take part are much more likely to have a negative view, introducing a bias into the poll.

Reason or evidence?

Confed999 · 09-03-2006, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by HistoricalDavid

Reason or evidence?

Got me, the terrorists and insurgents like to use the press...

Confed999 · 09-03-2006, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by gunnut

Do we really have the right to attack someone for talk?

If someone pulls a gun on you and says they are going to kill you, all they have done so far is talk, do you wait until they pull the trigger to act?

Tronic · 09-03-2006, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by parihaka

Yeah, the big difference is 74% think it was a good idea to remove Sadam, the highest margin and I guess not suprisingly. So the perception of the world that things aren't going swimmingly their is born up by the Iraqis themselves, except the Iraqis have a more optomistic view of the future.
Interestingly only 33% of Iranians think it was a good idea. Yet it was Sadam who attacked them. Guess it must worry them having an American army on their doorstep.

but less then a half think that the country is better off after the war....

Confed999 · 09-03-2006, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Tronic

but less then a half think that the country is better off after the war....

A war was just fought in their country, and now they're fighting stay free, how could they possibly be better off? France wasn't "better off" after WW2 either, they had been bombed to hell and back. It was years before Europe started to recover.

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Tronic Navajo Code Talker *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 12-27-04 Location: Patiala, India Posts: 5,250 Country:	heres some more about what the world thinks.... wow... one thing that surprised me was that the Indian public support America staying in the war by a greater margin then America's northern partner Canadians do!!! I thought, American-Canadian public was almost like one... and especially now since the Canadians have gotten a pro-American PM in place... Last edited by Tronic : 09-02-2006 at 23:36 PM.

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Parihaka Moderator Join Date: 11-10-04 Location: Te Ika a Maui Posts: 9,336 Country:	Here's what the Iraqis themselves think http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ory?id=1389228 __________________ In the realm of spirit, seek clarity; in the material world, seek utility. Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz

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gunnut *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 01-27-06 Location: DPRK, Democratik People's Republik of Kalifornia Posts: 9,143 Country:	Holy...I turn my head for a few hours and this thread is 3+ pages long... I'm not saying we should or shouldn't bomb/invade Iran. I just noticed that we have less legality to do anything about Iran. What has Iran done to us since 1979? They took some hostages and we shot down one of their jets. They haven't shot at us or planned to kill our former president. Talking is just that, talk. They haven't done anything to Israel. Do we really have the right to attack someone for talk? Nuclear arms. Are they really nuclear capable? Says who? Who's verifying the reports of them being nuclear? The intelligence agencies of the western world? Where have I heard that tune before? Sure Iran is funding Hezbollah to destablize the middle east, but Hezbollah isn't a direct threat to us. Islamists from Pakistan seem to be more of a problem for the west. Ever notice most of the arrests made in the west for attempted terrorism are Pakistani? __________________ "Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.

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