Tronic

ok, but the thing is... you are saying, oh, Saddam was evil, he was bad, he was this, he was that... yea, ok I get it....... so??? does that make Iran any less of a threat??? my original point is taking our Iran earlier would've been much better then getting stuck in Iraq...

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Tronic

why do the humanitarian issues count now but they didn't count when another American ally was committing far worse atrocities?????????

Confed999

And that would have made Iraq less of a threat how? My point again, if you support the removal of one, and not the other, it is hypocritical to say the least.

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Confed999

To me? When have I said I accept tyranny?

Julie

Let's look in the "memory hole" shall we?

http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/no-saddam-qaeda.htm

The occasion was a press conference with UK Prime Minister Tony Blair, which took place in the White House on 31 January 2003. Here's the key portion:

[Adam Boulton, Sky News (London):] One question for you both. Do you believe that there is a link between Saddam Hussein, a direct link, and the men who attacked on September the 11th?

THE PRESIDENT: I can't make that claim.

THE PRIME MINISTER: That answers your question.


Bluesman....there are many alqaeda in the UK....but we are taking the stance the UK is not giving them safe haven, and we aren't invading them.

Confed999

The question was about a direct link to 9/11. You see that right?

Bluesman

For the love of ALLAH, KNOCK IT OFF! You're being stoopid on purpose now.

He did NOT say that Saddam was involved in 9/11, and I wouldn't challenge him on it if he did, because that would be TRUE. (I even wrote an intelligence report to that effect shortly after 9/11, when it should be remembered, I was an Iraqi Military Forces Team analyst at NSA.)

What's FALSE, and what I called him on, was his bogus claim that Saddam's Iraq was not involved with aQ AT ALL. THEY WERE.

Now, dammit, I INSIST that you either start reading for comprehension instead of speed, or belt up about stuff you're just not equipped to discuss intelligently.

DAYUM!

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Tronic

so are you admitting that it was stupid for your government to support the 1971 genocide???

Confed999

*sigh* Do you ever remember me advocating genocide in any form?

Julie

2006 Pentagon study
In February 2006, the Pentagon published a study of the so-called Harmony database documents captured in Afghanistan.[62] While the study did not look specifically at allegations of Iraq's ties to al-Qaeda, it did analyze papers that offer insight into the history of the movement and tensions among the leadership. In particular, it found evidence that al-Qaeda jihadists had viewed Saddam as an "infidel" and cautioned against working with him. (See Timeline, February 14 2006).

Julie

Comprehension....you want me to post documents? I can do that.

Tronic

so you agree that American government was wrong in supporting it...

Confed999

Tronic, nothing you have said has touched my point. I have more than proven you wrong when you discounted my statements from post 5. If you're actually trying to go somewhere with another point, I think you should reread this thread first, because you aren't even close to being in the same place anymore.

Tronic

yes, Al-Queda and Taliban were more closely associated with an american ally that I wont mention and you probably already know then they were associated with Iraq...

Confed999

1971 was before my time, I was 2 or 3. I have no idea which, out of the multitudes of genocides that have happened in history, you're refering to. Provide that info, along with proof of US "support", and I'll tell you the same thing, "When have I ever supported genocide?"...