Shek

Bikeman,
Care to answer?

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Shek

Bikeman,
I offer the same challenge to you as I did to TexasJohn. I've never had anyone prove to me that they were lied to over WMD. The starting point is the definition of lying. Receiving wrong information and being told lies are different. Thanks.

Parihaka

Oops. missed this one.


Bruuuck bruk bruk bruuuKkkk.

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texasjohn

I agree there. Look at posts #186 and #230. It shows who started going juvenile. I myself would like this to be an adult conversation. So I will back off till tempers cool, just like I told OOE!!.

Anon

The "Bud" to whom you refer here is the former senior intelligence officer i was telling you about in my last post.

You know...an expert.

Anon

Sir, an open state of (air)war had existed between the US and Iraq since 1998.

TopHatter

That's a very good idea.

Anon

Post#159:
Originally posted: 09-07-2006, 11:59 PM
Last edited by texasjohn : Yesterday at 12:24 AM.
What legal reasons do we have to bomb/invade Iran?

Wasn't the next day huh?

Tex...did you just ask me out on a date?

Is this more BBQ taunting? I dont cook, i have a (3rd world) woman for that.


The terms "Area effect" and "surgical" are mutually exclusive. A single 'precision' 2000lb JDAM has a lethal radius almost 400 meters in diameter.

The term "surgical bombing" is a dream, there is no such thing. Precision bombing, the term I used does however exist, and is very easily defined as: to deliver a munition(s) precisely onto an aimpoint(s).

Now that i've explained the terminology at play, i will again state that a sustained PRECISION bombing campaign can very much shut down the Iranian nuclear program to a trickle(at best).


Put up a quote of me saying that anywhere in this thread(in reference to any nation, let alone Iran).

This would be a punitive campaign with a specific political goal, the strikes are not intended to destroy the Iranian WMD program in detail(though in general they'd be highly effective). Sigh....am i going to have to explain all facets of military operations to you?

Oh please... (rolling eyes)

You want to worry about a real live ongoing Genocide, start demanding we intervene in Darfur. If you even know where it is.

Wait...you already said we have no credibility. You can't lose what you don't have.

The fact is,

"Nations do not have friends, only interests."
~Winston Churchill

Political capitulation without the need for invasion, as per Yugoslavia.


Bush didn't say they have nukes. He said we won't LET them have nukes.

I think you should have another look at that link i gave you.

You have stumbled onto a board full of military professionals, so before you embarrass yourself further...

Screen name/real world

Ray= Former Indian Army Brigadier
Officer of Engineers= Former CF Lt. Colonel
Shek= Active duty, Major, US Army
LemonTree= Former Indian Army Captian
Bluesman= Former USAF/CENTCOM Intel Analyst
Gun Grape= Former USMC Gunnery Sgt
Rifleman= Former US Army NCO
AK Dave= Former US Army NCO
Me= Former US Army NCO
Rick USN= Former US Navy NCO
Big Ross= Active duty Israeli Army tanker

I'm leaving out a lot of guys, but that should give you some idea of who is sitting on the other end of all these monitors.

We have been on the recieving end of that line of thinking. As recently as 5 years ago.

Or did you forget?

I would prefer Iran just surrendered it's program. Then no one's kids have to die. If kids die, it would not be my fault, it would have been Irans fault.

You never showed one ounce of respect toward me to begin with, and i can honestly say that whether you respect me or not is completely irrelevant to me.
In honesty youz soundz likes a ghetto brutha dissin' anover brutha'...but redneck style.

Bad knees from my first stint in the Infantry.

You?

That's what it said on my fatigues...

I'm self employed. But then, Shek already pointed that out to you in an earlier thread.

See the economics 101 post from Shek where he explains it to you.

I am an ex-Cold warrior(that means i'm gettin' old), but if i thought i could actually still serve at a high level in a combat arms MOS(the only duty i would desire), i would be serving right now.

Again, Bugz, i suggest you take another look at the link.

In closing, i can't help but chuckle at the fact that you have managed to make one of the most spectacularly foot-in-mouth laden entrances in the history of this board, so...Kudos.

LOL...

Anon

Hmmm....this is post #186, and it's me quoting YOU describing me:

"Originally Posted by texasjohn View Post
Let me explain: This is the kind of dumbass logic I hear when there are a bunch of hillbillys standing around a BBQ drinking beer."

So yeah, i think we can see who started what. You've done the vast majority of insulting on this thread, so it's actually pretty amusing to see you now try and goodie up to the 'hall monitor'.

"He pushed me, he pushed me!"

LOL.

Ray

Snipe,

I will reserve my comments.

OK chaps.

Back off.

Let's restart the discussion.

Bluesman,

Please send me a truckload of butter cookies for everyone including me

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Anon

As you wish Sir.

Julie

Okay, this is new.....did you call Sniper a "Maroon?" What is that? Sorry, but funky spelling really irritates me.

Okay....yall have have wasted 2 pages of being totally off-topic in this thread.

So, get it back on, or I will lock it up!

Parihaka

Isn't it some sort of biscuit?
Anyway, just one thing, any reply Bikeman, on Snipes' questions of when/where/who as regards your military service?

texasjohn

It's what Bugs Bunny used to say remember? " what a maroon...."!

You are right, do let's get back on topic.

Bluesman

How 'bout you 'man up' a little first, if you're capable of it, and apologize to the general membership for being a fart-knocker, coming in here and acting a total jerk and having not the wit to even read what's written to you and absorb enough of it to make cogent commentary? Before we move on, maybe you could show enough decency to not act like you were raised by wolves, and have the minimal class to retract some of your brain-droppings that you've smeared on the walls of our little virtual community?

If you did that, perhaps we'll forget about the specific insults you're prone to sling, showing your simple lack of manners when entering a brand-new circle of established participants, and attempting to insert yourself where you'd be welcome...if only you weren't behaving like a drunken Apache at a cotillion.

I think those of us that you've managed to offend personally would be willing to let it slide and not demand a personal grovel at our feet, if you could just manage that much decorum.

Take a shot; I remain amusedly detached while watching to see if you can pull it off.

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