Iran secretly builds advanced nuclear centrifuges - exiles

Tronic · 08-24-2006, 17:51 PM

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Iran Focus-Iran secretly builds advanced nuclear centrifuges - exiles

Paris, Aug. 24 - Iran has secretly built more than a dozen advanced P2 nuclear centrifuges in breach of is commitments to the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), an Iranian opposition leader announced on Thursday.

“According to the information obtained by the Iranian Resistance at least 15 P2 centrifuges have been assembled so far and are being tested”, Mohammad Mohaddessin, the chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee of the National Council of Resistance of Iran, told a Paris press conference.

Mohaddessin said that around the time hard-liner Mahmoud Ahmadinejad ascended to the Presidency, Tehran secretly set up a company called “Iran Centrifuge Technology Company”, also known as TSA, which began producing P1 and P2 centrifuges. “The company’s chair, Jafar Mohammadi, is a top expert in the manufacture of centrifuges. He was transferred to TSA from the Defence Ministry”, he said.

Mohaddessin gave the address of the company in Tehran as well as the location of what he said was another secret site where Iran was assembling P2 centrifuges.

He said that the second site, on the outskirts of Tehran, was operating as part of a project codenamed “Shams”.

“Some of the sensitive centrifuge parts such as magnets are being bought on the black-market”, he said.

The United Nations Security Council adopted a legally-binding resolution on July 31 ordering Iran to suspend all its uranium enrichment activities by August 31 or face the threat of sanctions. Tehran has repeatedly ruled out a halt to enrichment.

Mohaddessin also provided the names of 18 Iranian nuclear scientists and experts who he said were working on P1 and P2 centrifuges in Iran.

The opposition leader called on the UN to impose “immediate and comprehensive” sanctions against Tehran to “prevent the most dangerous regime in the world arming itself with the most dangerous weapon”.

The exile coalition NCRI was the first to blow the whistle on Iran’s clandestine nuclear program. In August 2002, it revealed two massive nuclear sites at Natanz and Arak, both in central Iran, and has since made a string of stunning revelations about Tehran’s suspected nuclear weapons program.

http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/new...p?storyid=8357

What is the world going to do??? I'm expecting some more wimpish whining from world leaders on the Iran issue...

Commando · 08-24-2006, 18:41 PM

Only one country has the balls to do something. ISRAEL.

Although i don't feel as if they would need to do anything. Because even if Iran accquired nukes, Israel will still be able to annihilate them. Iran knows this, apart from there propoganda ww2 rhetoric.

Canmoore · 08-24-2006, 20:46 PM

problem is that if Iran gets nukes, then they will be able to blackmail Israel, what if they create a nuke and smuggled it into Israel? Iran can now use that as leverage to do whatever they want. Would Israel risk the loss of Tel Aviv in exchange for the total annihilation of Iran, and the drastic increase in Oil costs that would follow, not to mention the fallout would surely affect Israel, seeing as how close the two countries are.

Nukes i dont think are weapons anylonger, but more like bargaining chips. When you have a nuke, people listen to you, and the likelyhood of being attacked drops dramatically.

I think that Israel should just bomb Irans nuclear stations, and stop the project dead in its tracks.

Anon · 08-24-2006, 21:57 PM

If Iran gets nukes they can blackmail the entire world.

They're sitting on all the oil.

troung · 08-24-2006, 22:47 PM

Yeah lets invade on the word of some exiles... or let's have the exiles invade...

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They're sitting on all the oil.

Which they export for money and they rationalize nuclear power to use to fill their own energy needs while using oil to bring in money. Let's remember the nuclear program started with American support under the Shah for similar reasons.

Just giving the other sides story.

Anon · 08-24-2006, 23:04 PM

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Yeah lets invade on the word of some exiles... or let's have the exiles invade...

I think there's a bit more compelling evidence then that, yes?

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Originally Posted by troung

Which they export for money and they rationalize nuclear power to use to fill their own energy needs while using oil to bring in money. Let's remember the nuclear program started with American support under the Shah for similar reasons.

Well i'm not going to pay the price for Jimmy Carter's mistakes if i can at all avoid it cuz.

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Just giving the other sides story.

That's what Al Jazerra is for...

Canmoore · 08-24-2006, 23:23 PM

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Originally Posted by M21Sniper

If Iran gets nukes they can blackmail the entire world.

They're sitting on all the oil.

Canada has more oil than Iran does, Canada has more Oil than everysingle OPEC nation combined, with the exception of the Saudis.

Tronic · 08-24-2006, 23:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Canmoore

Canada has more oil than Iran does, Canada has more Oil than everysingle OPEC nation combined, with the exception of the Saudis.

how do you know how much oil the Saudi's have??? its suppose to be a state secret...

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Only one country has the balls to do something. ISRAEL.

Although i don't feel as if they would need to do anything. Because even if Iran accquired nukes, Israel will still be able to annihilate them. Iran knows this, apart from there propoganda ww2 rhetoric.

yes.. defenitely... Israel is one country we can always rely on to save the world from nuclear mullahs... the rest are all whiners... If Israel starts launching strikes against Iranian nuclear facilities... they will be my heroes for this decade...

Anon · 08-24-2006, 23:53 PM

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Canada has more oil than Iran does, Canada has more Oil than everysingle OPEC nation combined, with the exception of the Saudi's.

It is currently not economically viable to extract it. And of course there is the political stupidity of the tree-hugging left as well(which is probably an even bigger obstacle than the arctic climate!).

A nuclear Iran threatens every oil producing state in the ME.

We just can't have that...

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If Israel starts launching strikes against Iranian nuclear facilities... they will be my heroes for this decade...

Same here.

Canmoore · 08-25-2006, 14:00 PM

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It is currently not economically viable to extract it. And of course there is the political stupidity of the tree-hugging left as well(which is probably an even bigger obstacle than the arctic climate!)

Well yes extracting the Oil from the sand is expensive, however with more investment, and as technology progresses, it will become less and less expensive. And the Athabasca tar sands are not in the Arctic, it is in northern Alberta, however it is just south of the Arctic circle.

And lets face it, there are somethings that the tree huggers cannot stop, one thing they cannot stop is the need for Oil. And Canada has lots of it, enough to feed the entire world untill we find a better source of energy. The only question is, how hard are you willing to work for that oil? Sure middle east oil is cheaper, but do you really want all that baggage that comes along with it?

Anon · 08-25-2006, 14:49 PM

To be honest, the longer it takes for us to manage to extract our shale-oil and sand-oil the better.

That way we use up as much ME oil as we can before we switch to our own supplies.

Then they're(Islamists, Chinese, etc) over the barrel buying OUR oil.

**Julie** · 08-25-2006, 15:05 PM

Iran is totally dependent upon oil for revenue, therefore their only weakness.

I say do something they would never expect us to do.....bomb their oil facilities. That will shut them down financially, and militarily.

We did it to Germany, didn't we?

Anon · 08-25-2006, 15:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Julie

Iran is totally dependent upon oil for revenue, therefore their only weakness.

I say do something they would never expect us to do.....bomb their oil facilities. That will shut them down financially, and militarily.

We did it to Germany, didn't we?

That is without a doubt the smartest and most devious military suggestion/observation you've ever made on this forum miss.

Ku-freakin-Do's.

kams · 08-25-2006, 15:42 PM

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It is currently not economically viable to extract it. And of course there is the political stupidity of the tree-hugging left as well(which is probably an even bigger obstacle than the arctic climate!).

Well it was not economical when oil price was at $40 a barrel, now the price at $70 and may hit $100, its getting economical.

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Which they export for money and they rationalize nuclear power to use to fill their own energy needs while using oil to bring in money. Let's remember the nuclear program started with American support under the Shah for similar reasons.

Come on man, with such a huge oil and gas reserves does Iran need nuclear power for energy? Will it be economical? How come Saudi, UAE, Kuwait are not building Nuclear Power stations? Even if they need Nuclear Power stations, why not get enriched Uranium from Russia? Do you really believe that Iran's Nuclear quest is for Power generation?

Ray · 08-25-2006, 15:47 PM

I don't believe exiles.

They have an axe to grind.

Recall a chap called Chabalis?

Check where it has landed the US!

It is time to have faith in your own agencies and not believe every odd fish that surface to have some air!

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08-24-2006, 18:41 PM	#2 (permalink)
Commando Contributor Join Date: 01-01-05 Posts: 412 Country:	Only one country has the balls to do something. ISRAEL. Although i don't feel as if they would need to do anything. Because even if Iran accquired nukes, Israel will still be able to annihilate them. Iran knows this, apart from there propoganda ww2 rhetoric.

08-24-2006, 20:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
Canmoore *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 05-18-06 Location: Canada Posts: 1,330 Country:	problem is that if Iran gets nukes, then they will be able to blackmail Israel, what if they create a nuke and smuggled it into Israel? Iran can now use that as leverage to do whatever they want. Would Israel risk the loss of Tel Aviv in exchange for the total annihilation of Iran, and the drastic increase in Oil costs that would follow, not to mention the fallout would surely affect Israel, seeing as how close the two countries are. Nukes i dont think are weapons anylonger, but more like bargaining chips. When you have a nuke, people listen to you, and the likelyhood of being attacked drops dramatically. I think that Israel should just bomb Irans nuclear stations, and stop the project dead in its tracks.

08-24-2006, 21:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
Anon New Member Join Date: 08-03-03 Posts: 0	If Iran gets nukes they can blackmail the entire world. They're sitting on all the oil.

08-25-2006, 14:49 PM	#11 (permalink)
Anon New Member Join Date: 08-03-03 Posts: 0	To be honest, the longer it takes for us to manage to extract our shale-oil and sand-oil the better. That way we use up as much ME oil as we can before we switch to our own supplies. Then they're(Islamists, Chinese, etc) over the barrel buying OUR oil.

08-25-2006, 15:05 PM	#12 (permalink)
Julie Moderator Join Date: 08-04-03 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 6,340 Country:	Iran is totally dependent upon oil for revenue, therefore their only weakness. I say do something they would never expect us to do.....bomb their oil facilities. That will shut them down financially, and militarily. We did it to Germany, didn't we?

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