Vaman

Actually we DO know what the feeling is.

Parihaka

And surprise surprise, so do we.

Vaman

Yes I am proposing that the nations of Britain and the US are responsible for getting Iran to a situation it is today. I am not denying that and that has been my stand throughout.
Am I suggesting that any British or American be slaughtered, raped or strung up from a tree by the Iranians because of it or because they have "white blood " running through their veins? NO.

Parihaka

Then here we are, right back at post ten with the same unanswered question

Vaman

Arent you australian or something btw? So i would be a little surprised actually.
What it is in your neighborhood that would bother you so much anyway? Kangaroos with explosives laden pouches or an evil empire of fanatic kiwis?

Why would you assume I am proposing any solutions? I am not. But it does not contradict with my own stand of seeing Iran free of foriegn manipulation. That you see the current Iranian regime as a problem is yours and yours alone. What Iran does or doesnt do to the "white world"(as you describe it) is really none of my concern. In the same vein, Iran's unwarranted actions are solely their own responsibilty.
That said, I do believe nukes in the hand of Iran would be a stabilizing influence in that region.

Monk

ROFL!!! That post is such a bundle of contradictions and in such poor taste that I really shouldn't bother. But here goes, despite my "mental incapabilities", it is you who are using poor language and I don't see any "debate" in your post. Secondly, I don't give a damn about your views and quite frankly I would have smacked your ass to the middle of next week for the statement you made initially unfortunately this is only the internet.

Finally, let me point out something brutally obvious to everyone else here you were the first person to use the term "white people" and "other people" on this thread. I just called your bluff mo therfu cker.

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Parihaka

No actually I'm a New Zealander, and let's see, 2 world wars, the second of which threatened to over-run our country without Americas aid and of course more recently 9/11 in which New Zealanders were killed & wounded, Bali in which New Zealanders were killed & wounded, 7/7 in which New Zealanders were killed & wounded.
No actually it was your internet chum Monk who brought up race and the 'white mans burden' argument and called ME a racist without once being able to explain to me how 'race' came into it.
And if you believe Iran having the ability to nuke Israel is stabilizing after all the rhetoric they've been spewing, then you have got to be crazy. But of course if Iran does nuke Israel, it'll be America and Britains fault, won't it?

Parihaka

Soooo, lets see:
1: I say using the analogy "now look what you made me do" that you cannot use someone elses behaviour to justify your own poor behaviour, that in fact you are responsible for your own actions.

2: you Monk, misconstrue this by stating that I am racist, call me a racist, and state that it is "A restatement of "white man's burden" if you will"?

Now "the white mans burden" is best characterised by the Rudyard Kipling poem "The White Man's Burden", reproduced here.

Now perhaps you'd like to tell us how the concept of people taking responsibility for their actions and not blaming some other party is construed by you to mean that I am proposing that white men should try and rule the world? Hmmm?

So, in fact what you have done is
1: deliberately misrepresented my statements as supportive of the concept of "white man's burden" and
2: damned me as a racist because of this.

The fact that you don't give a damn about my views comes as no surprise as you haven't even begun to understand them but simply come onto this thread to troll, building your case on nothing more than hot air.

So still unable and unwilling to actually refute my posts you simply offer up that physically attacking me is the resort you would chose given the chance.

So you are
1: ignorant
2: a troll
3: a racist

As proof I have noted with interest various other post of yours
from here

and
From here


From here

we now move on to the abuse that you regularly hurl at other posters
from here

Your self admitted trolling of other posters

from here

and

from here

finally you try some sort of pathetic threats against me in other threads as well
from here

and all this from only 10 minutes searching

So, let ME point out something brutally honest:
you are a troll
you are racist
and you repeatedly try to threaten other posters

All in all I generally personally regret using base language to describe other posters but in your case I happily reiterate my previous statement

Parihaka

Oh and by the way, My dear departed Granny could have smacked your ass

gunnut

Really? Someone in power with nuclear potential calling for the destruction of your nation? I didn't know you are a Jew.

Jay

Gunnut,
Actually there are propenents in Pakistan who are calling for destruction of India and that feeling is mutual. You dont need to be a jew to understand that.

Trust me, we have fought wars and we do know/have that feeling.

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Iran's history post revolution does not lend comfort for it to be a responsible nuclear weapons power. The Hostage Crisis. The Iran-Iraq War. The Tanker War. Exporting the Iranian Revolution. Lebenon and Yugoslavia knows quite well of Iran's exports.

To think Iran would remain strictly focus on Israel or even the US and UK or even Europe is a fool's dream. It was not that long ago when they nearly went to war with the Taliban.

This being said, it is still way too early to count on Iran having any nukes. The centerfuges required for refining the uranium have not even been built yet and they need those before they can even think to start building bomb factories.

Simply put, there's nothing to bomb as of yet.

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