canadian boy

Do you think The conservatives are a just a bunch of cry babies, I mean look at them, every time they lose and election they go on a rampage putting down the liberals wanting another vote,and when they get the vote, when do they decide to have it, right when people want to have a nice holiday, now we have to listen to the Conservatives complain about the liberals, and the liberals try to win the elections. I've had enough of it already and i've only understood politics for a few years.

smilingassassin

The problem is its not just the Conservatives complaining, its the NDP PQ and Green party.

1) I consider myself a moderate conservative, slightly right of center so to lump in all conservatives on one side of the line is extremely naive case in point...

The problem is the liberals have done everything in their power to shift the political landscape in their favor and held onto power for what the last 12 years?
I beleive that for a democracy to work properly you need to change the govt once in a while. Over a decade of one party rule is far too long and it prevents a large part of the country getting the government it wants.

Its not a simple matter of being a crybaby, its a matter of being fed up about the corrupt Liberal government failing upwards. The recent handgun ban preposal is simply assinine in its ineffectiveness. Martin should also be held accountable from changing the mood of this nation completely sour in regaurds to the U.S.A. over softwood, instead of sitting down on 1 on 1 meetings with Bush over theissue he rachets up the needless nationalistic rehtoric that gets zero results.

I was embarased to watch the world junior hockey games here in Vancouver as Canadians booed the visiting American team. That kind of attitude allows us to move closer to the islamifasist side of the fence and further away from the kind and respectable country I knew as a teenager.

Officer of Engineers

Canadian concersevatives ain't all that much better than the liberals. The last batch we've had gave us the Meech Lake fiasco, ballooning debt, and incompetent international leadership.

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Chimo

smilingassassin

.....as opposed to the sponsorship and insider trading fiasco's, ballooning gun registry debt now saddled with a new hand gun ban preposal and incompetent international leadership of the Liberals.

Officer of Engineers

Cod Fisheries

GST

Assualt Rifle ban

Somalia

smilingassassin

The east coast is one of the leading contributers to the riseing GDP, so obviously they weren't hurt as a result of an attempt to preserve a natural resource.


Something the Liberals quickly terminated....


I'll give you that one, however that dosn't change my opinion that limiting weapons is not better than making penalty's for using them unlawfully more severe.

Iraq

Officer of Engineers

I'm not sure what you're trying to do. What the PC did was history and it resulted in the most disastrous election in history (2 seats). You cannot reverse the clock nor explain away the damage they've done.

However you might want to say the Liberals are worst, they are not going to repeat that history.

The Iraq situation is supported by the majority of Canadians. That's not going to change. Unlike Somalia, the Liberals did not abandon Afghanistan just because the Minister of National Defence and the Prime Minister were too busy running an election instead of doing their jobs. Kim Campbell (Spit) was too damned busy taking pictures of her bare shoulder to worry about what was happenning to the CAR in Somalia.

smilingassassin

Oh I don't dismiss the wrong doings of the last conservative government, from Mulroney on it got worse, Cambell was utterly useless, but in turn I'm looking at the present and to the future not the past. That means sending the current government packing, we've had practically the same government for over a decade so IMO its time for a change.

The softwood issue is being handled very poorly IMO, instead of demonizing the U.S. work with them to get the issue solved, if banning assualt rifles is wrong what about handguns? Why are we being told we are not in Iraq when in fact we are in limited numbers? Either we are in or we are out.

Just out of curiousity Chimo, whats your take on Harpers latest preposals reguarding gun crimes?

http://sympaticomsn.ctv.ca/servlet/A...r_crime_060105

Officer of Engineers

Smoke screen. Firearm enforcements are more severe than what the Conservatives are preaching. I support the ending of the registry though. It's nothing more than a tax grab and does not work at all.

smilingassassin

On that we can both agree! Also raising the age of consent to 16 from 14 years old is an excellent idea. Most people don't beleive it when they are told the age of consent is 14.

Whats your opinion on the CSIS preposal? Is this a Canadian version of the Patriot act?

Officer of Engineers

Well, it is a Canadian version in so much as it's really weak when compared to the Patriot Act. I personally don't like it. If the police can't do their jobs without new privacy invasion laws, then we need new police.

Blademaster

I share the same sentiment. Sometimes I really think that the police are a bunch of lazy crybabies when they request new laws restricting more rights of the law abiding citizens.

Canmoore

Ooooh Check out my snazy new avatar!!

gilgamesh

Would conservatives been the force they are without the Albertan oil? Since Alberta is the center of gravity for Conservatives.

ZFBoxcar

Oil has nothing to do with it, the Conservatives were getting nowhere before the sponsership scandle hit the Liberal Party. And Harper ran a very smooth and well managed campaign while the Liberals just threw promise after promise in an obvious bid to make the public forget their corruption.