This is an interesting topic because on the one hand I don't think drugs should be illegal at all, but most drug traffickers are absolute scum so I really don't have any sympathy for their "plight."
Asia's 'grim view on drug crime'
Death penalty record underscores region's tough policies
By Marianne Bray
CNN
Thursday, December 1, 2005; Posted: 5:43 p.m. EST (22:43 GMT)
Kim Nguyen, right, heads into Singapore's Changi Prison Thursday for her final visit with her son.
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SINGAPORE DEATH PENALTY
• Singapore's death penalty dates to its days as a British colony. Murder, kidnapping, treason, firearms offenses and drug trafficking are punishable by death.
• Amnesty International said in 2004 that about 420 people had been hanged in Singapore since 1991, mostly for drug smuggling, giving the country of 4.4 million people "possibly the highest execution rate in the world relative to its population."
• Only six people sentenced to death in Singapore have been granted clemency since 1965.
HONG KONG, China (CNN) -- At dawn this Friday, a hangman at Changi prison in Singapore was to place a hood over the head of Australian drug trafficker Nguyen Tuong Van, put a noose around his neck before opening a trapdoor in a "long-drop" procedure that would snap his spinal cord.
The death sentence for the 25-year former salesman was handed down after he was arrested at Changi airport while transiting from Cambodia to the Australian city of Melbourne in 2002, carrying nearly 400 grams (14 ounces) of heroin.
The city-state enacted tough drug laws in 1975 which made the death sentence mandatory for trafficking in more than 15 grams (half an ounce) of heroin, 30 grams of cocaine or 500 grams of cannabis.
The mandatory penalty means trial judges have no option but to impose a death sentence on those who are convicted, according to a 2004 Amnesty International report.
But Singapore is not alone in taking a tough stand on drug crimes.
As more and more nations around the world abolish capital punishment -- out of 196 nations Amnesty keeps a tab on, just 75 retain the death penalty --the Middle East, North Africa and Asia favor it.
Asia is the region where the most executions are carried out, with China, Vietnam and Singapore heading the list, according to Amnesty International.
Of 20 countries in Asia, only four nations -- Bhutan, Cambodia, Nepal and East Timor -- have abolished the death penalty, according to the 2005 United Nations report.
Three other nations -- Sri Lanka, Laos and Myanmar -- still subscribe to the death penalty, but have not carried out executions in more than 10 years.
China is the world's leading executioner, Amnesty International says, with the group quoting a senior official as saying the nation executes around 10,000 people each year.
Across Asia, capital punishment is used widely for drug-related crimes in Bangladesh, China, India, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Vietnam and Thailand.
"Most places in Asia take a very grim view on drug crime," says Hugh Whitby, secretary at Amnesty International Hong Kong. "This is where trafficking goes on so that is why it's taken seriously."
East Asia -- particularly Cambodia, China, Laos, Myanmar, Thailand and Vietnam -- is a major source of opium and heroin for the world market, according to the U.N. Office on Drugs and Crime.
'We have a responsibility'
In an effort to stop Singapore from becoming a narcotics hub, more than 420 prisoners have been hanged in Singapore since 1991, most of them for drug trafficking, according to Amnesty International. That figure is "shocking," Amnesty said.
Singapore has the highest execution rate in the world relative to its population, according to a U.N. report on capital punishment published in July this year. An average of 6.9 people were executed per 1 million over 1999 to 2003, the report states. The figure is nearly twice as much as for the nation with the second-highest rate of executions, Saudi Arabia at 3.66.
Defending the city-state's stance, Singapore Foreign Minister George Yeo wrote to Australian counterpart Alexander Downer in November, saying the amount of pure heroin Nguyen was carrying would have provided 26,000 doses to drug addicts.
"We ... have a responsibility to protect the people of Singapore from the scourge of drug addiction, which has destroyed many lives and inflicted great suffering on many families," he wrote.
Few public records
With the exception of the United States, international execution statistics are difficult to obtain because nations with such penalties keep their records a closely guarded secret.
Vietnam's prime minister, for example, issued a decree in January 2004 that makes reporting and disseminating of death penalty statistics a "state secret," according to an Amnesty annual report on the country.
In a July 2005 report, U.N. head Kofi Annan lamented the lack of accounting for death sentences, saying many nations who use them did not give any information on the number imposed, appeals allowed, the age or the sex of the offender nor type of offence.
In a bid to cast some light on what is going on in the gallows, the Australian Coalition against the Death Penalty has kept a tally of reported executions.
While it is by no means representative, it shows that out of 242 reported executions in 2005, more than 10 percent were carried out for drug crimes in nations such as Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Singapore, Iran and China.
Behind China and Iran, Vietnam was the world's third-ranked executor, with 64 people reported killed in 2004. That same year it sentenced 88 people to death, half for drug offenses, according to Amnesty International.
The quantities of drugs that can trigger death across Asia can be small.
In Thailand, possessing 20 grams of more of a Class A drug (which includes ecstasy, amphetamines) at an exit point such as a sea- or airport is regarded as trafficking, and if found guilty, an offender will be punished with death
In Vietnam, tough laws introduced in 1997 mean that anyone found possessing 100 grams (3.5 ounces) of heroin or five kilograms (11 pounds) of opium will face the death penalty.
Indonesia -- under the spotlight because of a number of Australians implicated in drug crimes -- has 54 people under the sentence of death, with 30 of those facing execution convicted of drug-related crimes, Amnesty reports.
Australians split
The fate of Vietnamese-born Nguyen -- who was born in a refugee camp in Thailand and moved to Australia with his mother and twin brother when he was 6 months old -- had split the public back home.
Canberra repeatedly pleaded for clemency, arguing that Nguyen had no previous convictions and could help in any drug investigation if he was allowed to live.
That view has been echoed more widely by human rights groups, such as Amnesty International, who argue the right to life is a fundamental one.
But just two days before his scheduled execution, 47 percent of Australians agreed he should be hanged, 46 percent said he should not and 7 percent were undecided, according to a poll carried out by Roy Morgan International.
More than half (57 percent) of Australians believe that if an Australian citizen is convicted of trafficking drugs in a country where the death penalty applies, it should be carried out.
'It's their country, and if they choose to make those rules we should be prepared to travel under those rules," one respondent said.
This is an interesting topic because on the one hand I don't think drugs should be illegal at all, but most drug traffickers are absolute scum so I really don't have any sympathy for their "plight."
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The death sentence has been carried out. The media have been saying that towards the last few weeks of his life, he was calm and bravely facing his fate. From all the family statements, he seemed like a nice guy. I personally don't see why he got the sentence. He apparently helped the police in all their enquiries and helped catch other drug dealers. At worst, a life sentence.
But what's done is done.
Here is an idea. If you are a drug smuggler/dealer/user, stay the hell away from those countries.
The guy was like 22 years old.
Asian countries like sending a strong message to drug peddlers I guess. I heard China executes 10,000 people a year.Here is an idea. If you are a drug smuggler/dealer/user, stay the hell away from those countries.
I have a better idea, "STAY AWAY FROM HIGHS". Everything else takes its own care. Dont think its toughOriginally Posted by bonehead
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I felt hte same way - I could care less if they want to legalize drugs - I think we should and tax the heck out of them. Same token, since they are illegal and it is common knowledge that they are illegal, I think there should be stricter penalties. Whether or not I agree with a law, if it is a law, there should be no mercy for someone breaking that law.Originally Posted by Leader
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"I didn't intend for this to take on a political tone. I'm just here for the drugs."-Nancy Reagan, when asked a political question at a "Just Say No" rally
"He no play-a da game, he no make-a da rules."-Earl Butz, on the Pope's attitude toward birth control
More background on this. The guy was an idiot to try and smuggle in the drugs. He made a life or death choice and got called on it.
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Never mind the naked greed that this fool obviously has for trying to bring in HEROIN!Now the bleeding hearts are wringing their hands over the pending execution and the Australian government, the UN and “human rights” organizations have pleaded for clemency.
This was not several pounds of sugar he was smuggling in get past strict customs and tax laws.![]()
Moronic bleeding heart idiots.
Singapore has some very strange laws. This is no different. But do notice you do not hear much of crime in that country on a regular basis. Pehaps the young man in question should have known that if he gets caught it will cost him his life. I dont agree with what became of him but at the same time maybe he should have thought about the consequences before hand.![]()
That's funny, I don't see it as strange at all.Originally Posted by Dreadnought
Actually it's a nice step in the right direction, IMO![]()
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