Biggest mosque for London Olympics

**Ray** · 27 Nov 05,, 23:48

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Biggest mosque for London Olympics

LONDON: An Islamic group is proposing to build Western Europe’s biggest mosque, with room for 40,000 worshippers, in east London in time for the 2012 Olympic Games, reported the Sunday Times. Tablighi Jamaat envisions a futuristic design for the three-storey mosque, with wind turbines taking the place of minarets and an overall capacity of 70,000 when surrounding buildings are taken into account. “It would be something never seen before in this country,” Abdul Khalique, a senior member of Tablighi Jamaat, was quoted as saying. The mosque would be a hub for Muslim competitors and spectators at the London games as well as British headquarters for Tablighi Jamaat, a professedly apolitical group that was founded in India during the British Raj. Besides the mosque itself, the complex - with a distinctive sweeping roof - would include a garden, school, library and accommodation for visiting worshippers. Islamic calligraphy would grace the walls and ceilings. “It will be more than a mosque. The idea behind it is to break down barriers,” London and Barcelona-based architect Ali Mangera, who is designing the project, was quoted as saying. Officials in the east London borough of Newham said the planning application for the project - which could cost more than £100 million ($171 million) - would be finalised over the coming year. afp

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default...-11-2005_pg7_4

There are adequate mosques to harbour the Islamic Olympians for their spiritual solace and so one wonders what is the reason reason for this gigantic mosque.

It will show case Islam and will be a landmark that can hardly be missed. Hence, it will be a statement in a land that is not Islamic and indeed would go a long way to spread the munificence of Islam.

However, the idea of having such a large showpiece in the wake of the London Bombing would not go well with the British public at large, even if it maybe in the interest of the "secular" credential of Blair government.

The Tablighi organisation has been founded in India but its HQ is now in Raiwind, Pakistan and it has been in the forefront of spreading Islam in Europe and the USA. It is believed many of the convertees in the US and Europe have done exceeding well in the ranks of the Taliban.

Some links on the Tablighi organisation.

www.meforum.org/article/686 - 43k - 26 Nov 2005

www.rediff.com/news/2003/jul/14us.htm

www.stanford.edu/group/SHR/5-1/text/metcalf.html

www.islamicacademy.org/html/Articles/English/Tableeghee%20Jma'at.htm

www.islamicacademy.org/html/Articles/English/Tableeghee%20Jma'at-Ahadis.htm

www.renaissance.com.pk/Augq72y3.html

**Leader** · 28 Nov 05,, 00:15

What would Londonistan be like with Europe's biggest Mosque?

**~~giggs88~~** · 28 Nov 05,, 00:34

Eurabia. Here we come.

**indianguy4u** · 28 Nov 05,, 06:38

Instead if same monies could have being spent on giving moslem youths in britain technical training so as to earn a living. Atleast french live situation will be averted. As it is education stds & jobs of moslems youths are lowest of all immigrant communities.

**~~platinum786~~** · 29 Nov 05,, 22:25

Excuse me, become muslim and british before you comment on our lives.

If we have the capacity to make this masjid why not? If we have muslims that need to pray in this masjid then why not? For the olypics many other excesses will be done, if one helps the muslim community why is that a negativity.

the organisaiton behind the idea....i'm not a fan of, they vary from what i consider true islam, but to each his own.

as for the lame arguement of british people hating it or disliking it, that myth was dispelled by the incredible response by the british public post the london tube attacks, nobody made a comment out of place.

This is not India where you pretend to be a democracy and a secular state tehm promote the hindu rule....this is the birth place of true democracy as we know it today with secuarlsim, Britian, indeed it is Great Britain, to keep in touch with the olympic theme.

**~~giggs88~~** · 29 Nov 05,, 22:27

Originally Posted by platinum786

Excuse me, become muslim and british before you comment on our lives.

Nahhhhhh, I'll pass on both. Especially the first one.

**~~platinum786~~** · 29 Nov 05,, 22:36

don't you support man united?! i thought you where from london, 90% of united supporters are!!

damn, i just noticed, your american.....wow!!! an american that supports the same club as me....lol....an american that watches football!!

**~~giggs88~~** · 29 Nov 05,, 22:55

Yes, I do like Man utd.

But I'm not from there.

I'm not some person that jumps on the bandwagon though. I've been a fan of MU for a long time.

I payed a crazy ass amount of money to go watch them in the Giants Stadium against Juventus. I couldn't get out of there until 6am the next morning. It was THAT packed. (the game ended at 10 pm)

Giggsy scored.

As did Scholes, Ole, and Forlan (I think).

**~~platinum786~~** · 29 Nov 05,, 23:43

oh on tour in the states....never bother with those matches.

when i was first introduced to football i chose teams on thier kit....then i started to understand football and how it's played, and eventaully chose united as a team, as our local side derby are losers, and boring losers at that too....

really really boooorrrinnnggg....

anyway, my point was that it is unfair to comment on the lives of young muslims in the UK without being one.

money is now in need, motivationa nd a support structure to keep boys on the right track is. Grils don't have this issue, those girls fortunate enough to have parents clever enough to let them become educated are very determinted to learn, it's stupid boys that have this issue.

myself included. I'm studying Computer Science, My younger Sisters are going Pharmacy and Medicine....my younger brother, i think he's going to be 30 and still in college....

for some reason or the other, boys don't take the chances, they mature later, and silp of the rails usually in school.....that's where people get into crime and drugs, parents are often working 12 odds hours a day and incapable of providing the adequete support....schools, they tend to stereotype.

i can start a whole new topic on that if you all want me too...this si about the olympics, and the great waste of tax payers money associated with it.

**~~giggs88~~** · 29 Nov 05,, 23:51

Weren't Derby in the Premiership a few years back?

**~~platinum786~~** · 30 Nov 05,, 00:33

ages ago....like when i was too young to remember stats, like 5 years ago nearly...

when we where good, we where good, had some top players and played good football, but a racist manager soon made sure that players where not rewarded for thier ability and one big players get on the big stage they don't take crap.

jim smith was the demise of derby county in recent years, a good footbaal brain, but a racist...

foreign players who added class into the side where not given the pay packets they deserved and thus left...

**ZFBoxcar** · 30 Nov 05,, 03:19

If we have the capacity to make this masjid why not? If we have muslims that need to pray in this masjid then why not? For the olypics many other excesses will be done, if one helps the muslim community why is that a negativity.

I agree, people should have the right to do whatever they want with their property as long as they are not infringing on anybody else's rights. And yeah, everybody does go overboard with the olympics.

**Leader** · 30 Nov 05,, 04:43

Originally Posted by platinum786

Excuse me, become muslim and british before you comment on our lives.

I'll pass, but I'll feel free to continue to point out ******** where I see it.

This is not India where you pretend to be a democracy and a secular state tehm promote the hindu rule....this is the birth place of true democracy as we know it today with secuarlsim, Britian, indeed it is Great Britain, to keep in touch with the olympic theme.

hmmm...Pakistan. Enough said.

**~~platinum786~~** · 30 Nov 05,, 10:29

ugh...d!ck head i live in the UK....England....the place with a queen....where most of you potato immgrants came from....it's near London....

**Ray** · 30 Nov 05,, 14:15

Plat,

I am with you that it is unfair to comment on Moslems without being a Moslem.

Nothing could be more true.

However, the point that you may like to consider that just as you feel that it is unfair for non Moslems to comment or impose their ideas on Moslems, likewise the non Moslems too feel violated when the Moslems impose their ideas on non Moslems and that too in a country which is officially non Moslem or secular.

In Britain, like it or not, non Moslems of Asian origin faces a lot of hostility (latent or covert, if you wish, in most cases) in the UK, just because of the London underground bombings aftermath.

Getting even a tourist visa to visit the US is difficult these days after 9/11.
And after getting one, you are strip searched when you arrive in the US! These surely are not very pleasant memories to carry back, but then what can one say if the Americans have become paranoid after their showpiece WTC collapsed through a real mesmerising, special effect type of an act, which I thought was only true in Hollywood movies. And imagine it - planned by a Bedou with his shumagh/ ghoutra.

All this humiliation on non Moslems, all because of 9/11 and the London and Madrid bombing and not to speak of the non stop terrorism worldwide.......all for merely 72 "white grapes" ("hur" Aramic translation)!

Sad, but true!